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	<title>Comments on: Bryan Miller Jumps In</title>
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		<title>By: Carl in Chicago</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/29/bryan-miller-jumps-in/#comment-32251</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl in Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the slope is there (despite what Helmke claims) because the post-Heller gun control agenda reads just the same as the pre-Heller agenda.

They are trying to convince us that everything is changed, while acting as if nothing has changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the slope is there (despite what Helmke claims) because the post-Heller gun control agenda reads just the same as the pre-Heller agenda.</p>
<p>They are trying to convince us that everything is changed, while acting as if nothing has changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomen Nescio</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/29/bryan-miller-jumps-in/#comment-32210</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomen Nescio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...so, yes, it IS the old slippery slope thing. as Sebastian just now pointed out, we have plenty of cause to believe that this slope really IS slippery, and that rhetoric such as mr. Miller&#039;s is greasing it further. why should that not make us defensive and angry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;so, yes, it IS the old slippery slope thing. as Sebastian just now pointed out, we have plenty of cause to believe that this slope really IS slippery, and that rhetoric such as mr. Miller&#8217;s is greasing it further. why should that not make us defensive and angry?</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/29/bryan-miller-jumps-in/#comment-32198</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike B:

First, I don&#039;t own a machine gun.  They&#039;ve been banned since 1986 from new manufacture, and banned fomr importation since 1968.  They ones that are legally transferable are too expensive for me to afford (start at about 5 grand and go up from there), and I don&#039;t really feel like going through all the paperwork to get the federal approval for the transfer.

Second, I&#039;m willing to talk about problems in the gun culture.  You want to talk slippery slopes.  Look at what they are proposing in Massachusetts in response to this tragedy.   Not just that kids can&#039;t shoot machine pistols, but that they can&#039;t shoot certain semi-automatic rifles, which are used in shooting competitions, either.  Rather than address the issue at hand, the gun control groups in Massachusetts are trying to end junior CMP and high-power competition.  Another freedom taken away.  That&#039;s how it&#039;s been for us -- one loss at a time.  Over time, it adds up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike B:</p>
<p>First, I don&#8217;t own a machine gun.  They&#8217;ve been banned since 1986 from new manufacture, and banned fomr importation since 1968.  They ones that are legally transferable are too expensive for me to afford (start at about 5 grand and go up from there), and I don&#8217;t really feel like going through all the paperwork to get the federal approval for the transfer.</p>
<p>Second, I&#8217;m willing to talk about problems in the gun culture.  You want to talk slippery slopes.  Look at what they are proposing in Massachusetts in response to this tragedy.   Not just that kids can&#8217;t shoot machine pistols, but that they can&#8217;t shoot certain semi-automatic rifles, which are used in shooting competitions, either.  Rather than address the issue at hand, the gun control groups in Massachusetts are trying to end junior CMP and high-power competition.  Another freedom taken away.  That&#8217;s how it&#8217;s been for us &#8212; one loss at a time.  Over time, it adds up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikeb302000</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/29/bryan-miller-jumps-in/#comment-32189</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikeb302000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian, I read that article you linked to and found it anything but hysterical. Why do gun enthusiasts get so defensive at the first question? Is it the old slippery slope thing?  Are you afraid if you admit third-graders shouldn&#039;t be playing with machine guns then suddenly you&#039;ll have to give yours up?

And your commenters are completely over the top, all that &quot;dancing in the blood&quot; nonsense.  Is it not allowed for anti-gun people to use real examples of what they feel are real problems with gun culture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastian, I read that article you linked to and found it anything but hysterical. Why do gun enthusiasts get so defensive at the first question? Is it the old slippery slope thing?  Are you afraid if you admit third-graders shouldn&#8217;t be playing with machine guns then suddenly you&#8217;ll have to give yours up?</p>
<p>And your commenters are completely over the top, all that &#8220;dancing in the blood&#8221; nonsense.  Is it not allowed for anti-gun people to use real examples of what they feel are real problems with gun culture?</p>
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		<title>By: B Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/29/bryan-miller-jumps-in/#comment-32185</link>
		<dc:creator>B Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, I had almost forgotten the old &#039;guns-as-erection-substitute&#039; analysis. I wonder what the rapidly-increasing percentage of women who shoot have to say about this.
I don&#039;t even want to SPECULATE what Bryan Miller thinks women use guns to compensate for, but sometimes my mind just won&#039;t stop in time. Ew, I need to go scrub out my brain with bourbon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, I had almost forgotten the old &#8216;guns-as-erection-substitute&#8217; analysis. I wonder what the rapidly-increasing percentage of women who shoot have to say about this.<br />
I don&#8217;t even want to SPECULATE what Bryan Miller thinks women use guns to compensate for, but sometimes my mind just won&#8217;t stop in time. Ew, I need to go scrub out my brain with bourbon.</p>
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		<title>By: Weer'd Beard</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/29/bryan-miller-jumps-in/#comment-32155</link>
		<dc:creator>Weer'd Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how the comments are constantly &quot;Wow Bryan, yer an asshole&quot;

I guess he&#039;s fine with being an asshole...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how the comments are constantly &#8220;Wow Bryan, yer an asshole&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess he&#8217;s fine with being an asshole&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Linoge</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/29/bryan-miller-jumps-in/#comment-32154</link>
		<dc:creator>Linoge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell, even Jade is dancing in the blood at this point... it is no great surprise that another anti-rights individual decided to dive into the mess as well.  

Kind of surprising that that many children die on bicycles a year, though... of course, next thing you know is that the government is going to be mandating Michelin-man suits for any child on a bicycle.  After all, we have to have tax-payers to support the whole &quot;spread the wealth&quot; thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, even Jade is dancing in the blood at this point&#8230; it is no great surprise that another anti-rights individual decided to dive into the mess as well.  </p>
<p>Kind of surprising that that many children die on bicycles a year, though&#8230; of course, next thing you know is that the government is going to be mandating Michelin-man suits for any child on a bicycle.  After all, we have to have tax-payers to support the whole &#8220;spread the wealth&#8221; thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carl in Chicago</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/29/bryan-miller-jumps-in/#comment-32153</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl in Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian, thank you for the comment.  It was patient, reasoned, and understanding.

A wonderful contrast to Brian&#039;s post.

Again, thank you for that maturity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastian, thank you for the comment.  It was patient, reasoned, and understanding.</p>
<p>A wonderful contrast to Brian&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>Again, thank you for that maturity.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/29/bryan-miller-jumps-in/#comment-32152</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s mostly there to anyone who happens along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s mostly there to anyone who happens along.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Huffman</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/29/bryan-miller-jumps-in/#comment-32151</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian, facts such as those don&#039;t matter to him. Even one death per year would be cause for him to dance in the blood.

It was useful to post it however. Rational people that read it will draw the appropriate conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastian, facts such as those don&#8217;t matter to him. Even one death per year would be cause for him to dance in the blood.</p>
<p>It was useful to post it however. Rational people that read it will draw the appropriate conclusions.</p>
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