Comments on: Media Bias of the Day http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/06/media-bias-of-the-day/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:01:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/06/media-bias-of-the-day/#comment-30895 Sebastian Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:58:17 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5709#comment-30895 Yes, it is politics of fear... because Obama scares the fucking shit out of me. He scares me in a way that Hillary Clinton never could. I am not a fan of the Clintons, but I can't tell you how much I wish Hillary were the nominee. Even if I knew that meant McCain's candidacy would be utterly hopeless. Yes, it is politics of fear… because Obama scares the fucking shit out of me. He scares me in a way that Hillary Clinton never could. I am not a fan of the Clintons, but I can’t tell you how much I wish Hillary were the nominee. Even if I knew that meant McCain’s candidacy would be utterly hopeless.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/06/media-bias-of-the-day/#comment-30894 Sebastian Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:56:13 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5709#comment-30894 All politicians have some shady associations... this isn't just a shady association. The guy was a fucking terrorist! All politicians have some shady associations… this isn’t just a shady association. The guy was a fucking terrorist!

]]> By: Noops http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/06/media-bias-of-the-day/#comment-30891 Noops Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:48:28 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5709#comment-30891 p.s. That last thing is what bothers me. It's the fear mongering. Do the people commenting here really think that Obama "pals with terrorists?" To me it simply plays out as the politics of fear. Trying to "fear" people into disliking Obama, instead of pushing real reasons why people should dislike him, such as his stance on the Second Amendment. In fact, wouldn't the two be dichotomous? Wouldn't he want less gun legislation if he supported terrorism? Isn't that how Dems go after guns? The terrorists might get them? Ok, that was snarky...But I just find myself reacting forcefully in my mind to the politics of fear. I won't go for it. I don't think other independents will either, but I could be wrong. Maybe it's because I feel like I suckered for it in 2004 that I feel a strong reaction to it now. p.s. That last thing is what bothers me. It’s the fear mongering. Do the people commenting here really think that Obama “pals with terrorists?” To me it simply plays out as the politics of fear. Trying to “fear” people into disliking Obama, instead of pushing real reasons why people should dislike him, such as his stance on the Second Amendment. In fact, wouldn’t the two be dichotomous? Wouldn’t he want less gun legislation if he supported terrorism? Isn’t that how Dems go after guns? The terrorists might get them? Ok, that was snarky…But I just find myself reacting forcefully in my mind to the politics of fear. I won’t go for it. I don’t think other independents will either, but I could be wrong. Maybe it’s because I feel like I suckered for it in 2004 that I feel a strong reaction to it now.

]]> By: Noops http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/06/media-bias-of-the-day/#comment-30890 Noops Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:36:15 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5709#comment-30890 While I still think it's a pretty big stretch...It's not really my point. McCain has some of the same "guilt by association issues" as Obama. What bothers me is that it seems that McCain has so lost people on the ability to fight this fight on policy and execution that it's now resorting to this type of last ditch effort to win. Obama is no better with his new thing trying to tie McCain to Keating 5 scandal, but McCain has lost the substantive fight and has resorted to what amounts to playground name-calling all wrapped up in the politics of fear: OMG Hussein Osama/Obama cavorting with t3rr0r1st! Teh Gays will rule the world! While I still think it’s a pretty big stretch…It’s not really my point. McCain has some of the same “guilt by association issues” as Obama.

What bothers me is that it seems that McCain has so lost people on the ability to fight this fight on policy and execution that it’s now resorting to this type of last ditch effort to win. Obama is no better with his new thing trying to tie McCain to Keating 5 scandal, but McCain has lost the substantive fight and has resorted to what amounts to playground name-calling all wrapped up in the politics of fear: OMG Hussein Osama/Obama cavorting with t3rr0r1st! Teh Gays will rule the world!

]]> By: emdfl http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/06/media-bias-of-the-day/#comment-30888 emdfl Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:31:28 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5709#comment-30888 DirtCrasher - You might also want to check on who the judge was who dismissed the evidence against Ayers as being illegally collected. DirtCrasher -
You might also want to check on who the judge was who dismissed the evidence against Ayers as being illegally collected.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/06/media-bias-of-the-day/#comment-30887 Sebastian Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:36:56 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5709#comment-30887 I find the age argument particularly weak in terms of deflecting the association. I was only just born when David Duke was a Grand Wizard in the Ku Klux Klan, but I wouldn't have anything to do with the bastard today or ever. I find his ideology repulsive. The fact that Obama didn't find Ayers ideology so, or didn't care enough to check, does not inspire confidence. I find the age argument particularly weak in terms of deflecting the association. I was only just born when David Duke was a Grand Wizard in the Ku Klux Klan, but I wouldn’t have anything to do with the bastard today or ever. I find his ideology repulsive. The fact that Obama didn’t find Ayers ideology so, or didn’t care enough to check, does not inspire confidence.

]]> By: DirtCrashr http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/06/media-bias-of-the-day/#comment-30886 DirtCrashr Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:30:57 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5709#comment-30886 The TV Media lied again and covered for Obama last night and simply called The Weathermen "A 60's radical organization." No mention of the 9-year old kid who they tried to kill with a bomb - along with his parents. Or that Ayers has famously said, "We didn't do enough." Or that the bomb that ended their operations killing many of the Weathermen planners of them was prepared for an attack on Fort Dix that would have been the biggest homegrown terrorist act ever in the US. Three people building bombs in the basement, Diana Oughton, Terry Robbins, and Theodore Gold were obliterated, along with a townhouse that was reduced to rubble and caught fire. Charges dropped?? Ayers and Dohrn escaped prosecution only because of government misconduct in collecting evidence against them. I remember when I was five Kennedy was assassinated, when I was ten Bobby was shot and killed by Sirhan-Sirhan. How old does it matter? There's no statute of limitations on murder. The TV Media lied again and covered for Obama last night and simply called The Weathermen “A 60′s radical organization.”
No mention of the 9-year old kid who they tried to kill with a bomb – along with his parents.
Or that Ayers has famously said, “We didn’t do enough.”
Or that the bomb that ended their operations killing many of the Weathermen planners of them was prepared for an attack on Fort Dix that would have been the biggest homegrown terrorist act ever in the US.
Three people building bombs in the basement, Diana Oughton, Terry Robbins, and Theodore Gold were obliterated, along with a townhouse that was reduced to rubble and caught fire.
Charges dropped?? Ayers and Dohrn escaped prosecution only because of government misconduct in collecting evidence against them.
I remember when I was five Kennedy was assassinated, when I was ten Bobby was shot and killed by Sirhan-Sirhan. How old does it matter? There’s no statute of limitations on murder.

]]> By: Bitter http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/06/media-bias-of-the-day/#comment-30885 Bitter Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:27:42 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5709#comment-30885 I can answer this one: You know who you work with and who you work for. You do your research. I have refused an offer to work with someone whose tactics I don't like. He's by no means a terrorist, under any stretch of the definition. Yet I still did my research and found he wasn't someone I wanted to work with. It's not hard. If Obama is incapable of doing that kind of research, then how is he qualified to sit in the Oval Office? I can answer this one: You know who you work with and who you work for. You do your research. I have refused an offer to work with someone whose tactics I don’t like. He’s by no means a terrorist, under any stretch of the definition. Yet I still did my research and found he wasn’t someone I wanted to work with. It’s not hard.

If Obama is incapable of doing that kind of research, then how is he qualified to sit in the Oval Office?

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/06/media-bias-of-the-day/#comment-30884 Sebastian Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:24:38 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5709#comment-30884 Bitter has worked in issue oriented politics in her career so far. Ask her if she'd work for or closely with a guy who is a known and unrepentant terrorist, and is known to hold radical views far out-of-the-mainstream. People don't work in that sector unless they believe the shit they are selling. Bitter has worked in issue oriented politics in her career so far. Ask her if she’d work for or closely with a guy who is a known and unrepentant terrorist, and is known to hold radical views far out-of-the-mainstream. People don’t work in that sector unless they believe the shit they are selling.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/06/media-bias-of-the-day/#comment-30883 Sebastian Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:23:03 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5709#comment-30883 I do think you can be judged by the company you keep. Ayers certainly seemed to help Obama get his career started. They certainly knew each other. That the association may have been more professional doesn't lend me any comfort, especially when politics has driven driven most of Obama's career choices. I do think you can be judged by the company you keep. Ayers certainly seemed to help Obama get his career started. They certainly knew each other. That the association may have been more professional doesn’t lend me any comfort, especially when politics has driven driven most of Obama’s career choices.

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