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		<title>By: MisterLady27</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/01/saving-the-shooting-sports/#comment-30815</link>
		<dc:creator>MisterLady27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy All,

1.  I agree with the OP.  we must expand the shooting pool to have the next generation survive.

2. The Lady and I are doing our part.  In concert with our church, we host a youth shooting camp in the local area.  A day of safety fundementals, shotgun and rimfire rifles range time.  next year will be the third annual!

3.  What can you do at your place with your friends??  It&#039;s our responsibility!

ML27</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy All,</p>
<p>1.  I agree with the OP.  we must expand the shooting pool to have the next generation survive.</p>
<p>2. The Lady and I are doing our part.  In concert with our church, we host a youth shooting camp in the local area.  A day of safety fundementals, shotgun and rimfire rifles range time.  next year will be the third annual!</p>
<p>3.  What can you do at your place with your friends??  It&#8217;s our responsibility!</p>
<p>ML27</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/01/saving-the-shooting-sports/#comment-30775</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many gun clubs are their own worst enemy.  Older members are often reluctant to open up membership and do what needs to be done to have the club become viable for the future. These same members like the atmosphere of a small club of just a handful of friends many of whom don&#039;t even shoot anymore.  Many older pistol clubs in NJ won&#039;t have anything other than NRA Bullseye shooting.  Many newer shooters are more interested in practical shooting, Cowboy action shooting, combat anything other than Bullseye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many gun clubs are their own worst enemy.  Older members are often reluctant to open up membership and do what needs to be done to have the club become viable for the future. These same members like the atmosphere of a small club of just a handful of friends many of whom don&#8217;t even shoot anymore.  Many older pistol clubs in NJ won&#8217;t have anything other than NRA Bullseye shooting.  Many newer shooters are more interested in practical shooting, Cowboy action shooting, combat anything other than Bullseye.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/01/saving-the-shooting-sports/#comment-30713</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a Clubs and Associations director within NRA, yes.  But I actually don&#039;t think NRA does nearly as good a job working with its clubs as it could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a Clubs and Associations director within NRA, yes.  But I actually don&#8217;t think NRA does nearly as good a job working with its clubs as it could.</p>
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		<title>By: RAH</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/01/saving-the-shooting-sports/#comment-30711</link>
		<dc:creator>RAH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outreach needs to done. NRA is involved with most clubs since theri members are also NRA members. Does the NRA have a person that does to the club meetings to discuss outreach programs like working with local JROTC and Boy Scouts troops.

The shooting clubs websites are dependent on the skills or lack of skills of the member that set up and maintains the website. Now that many gunbloggers are savy webmasters, those gunbloggers can volunteer their services to their clubs to improve the websites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outreach needs to done. NRA is involved with most clubs since theri members are also NRA members. Does the NRA have a person that does to the club meetings to discuss outreach programs like working with local JROTC and Boy Scouts troops.</p>
<p>The shooting clubs websites are dependent on the skills or lack of skills of the member that set up and maintains the website. Now that many gunbloggers are savy webmasters, those gunbloggers can volunteer their services to their clubs to improve the websites.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Fry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, one solution might be a site which is an index of sites and with each entry there can be a summary and place for people to comment on each clubs. If there is a site that does that now, it probably suffers from the same design/quality problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, one solution might be a site which is an index of sites and with each entry there can be a summary and place for people to comment on each clubs. If there is a site that does that now, it probably suffers from the same design/quality problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Fry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you know a friend who still shoots, ask him to take you. That’s how I got started.&quot;

If you shoot, remember to ask others if they would like to come to the range with you.  Not only that, but if you find going to the range boring, then try taking others with you.

I started shooting again in April when I got my handgun. I take my 1911 and my mini M1 carbine (.22 cal) every Wednesday and have one regular friend who comes along and a third who will also be joining us after coming out one Wednesday. We have our own little party.

Luckily I have the NRA range nearby. There seems to be no shortage of women or minorities coming in there. I also dropped by on a weekend and it was packed with dads and kids.  They must be doing something right. I have seen 

I am still trying to get the wife to come along but there are the kids that need watching and a general lack of interest at the moment. She has shot a pellet pistol and really enjoyed that.

As for kids and video games, the media want all of us to believe that these video games are driving these kids to go on murderous gun rampages. How is that possible if they won&#039;t put the game down to handle a real gun? My kids are too young, but already my 3 yo daughter wants to go play &#039;bullseye&#039; once she is old enough.  I am just not sure when that is, yet.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you know a friend who still shoots, ask him to take you. That’s how I got started.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you shoot, remember to ask others if they would like to come to the range with you.  Not only that, but if you find going to the range boring, then try taking others with you.</p>
<p>I started shooting again in April when I got my handgun. I take my 1911 and my mini M1 carbine (.22 cal) every Wednesday and have one regular friend who comes along and a third who will also be joining us after coming out one Wednesday. We have our own little party.</p>
<p>Luckily I have the NRA range nearby. There seems to be no shortage of women or minorities coming in there. I also dropped by on a weekend and it was packed with dads and kids.  They must be doing something right. I have seen </p>
<p>I am still trying to get the wife to come along but there are the kids that need watching and a general lack of interest at the moment. She has shot a pellet pistol and really enjoyed that.</p>
<p>As for kids and video games, the media want all of us to believe that these video games are driving these kids to go on murderous gun rampages. How is that possible if they won&#8217;t put the game down to handle a real gun? My kids are too young, but already my 3 yo daughter wants to go play &#8216;bullseye&#8217; once she is old enough.  I am just not sure when that is, yet&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the clubs do a little bit of work to get some younger people, they may run into some volunteer help with the skills to deal with their online communication problems, which would, in turn, snowball their membership efforts in a positive way. I do web sites for about 6 churches and a couple of ministry groups on a volunteer basis because I&#039;ve got the skills and I want to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the clubs do a little bit of work to get some younger people, they may run into some volunteer help with the skills to deal with their online communication problems, which would, in turn, snowball their membership efforts in a positive way. I do web sites for about 6 churches and a couple of ministry groups on a volunteer basis because I&#8217;ve got the skills and I want to help.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/01/saving-the-shooting-sports/#comment-30702</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There are some factors that may scare young people away from the shooting sports, especially in NJ. One is the rather daunting requirements for the NJ FID card.&lt;/i&gt;

Which is precisely the purpose of that requirement.

&lt;i&gt;Part of the problem is that even those interested in joining a club have a difficult time. We’re an internet generation…&lt;/i&gt;

Bingo!  It&#039;s a huge problem, and it will end up killing a lot of gun clubs if they don&#039;t get their act together.  Part of the problem is, as Michael points out, is that your typical mechanisms of coming into the sport are changing, and we have this old, antiquated club system that&#039;s not ready to cope with it.

This is a disaster waiting to happen, because we &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; clubs to survive.  We desperately need them to adapt and attract younger people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There are some factors that may scare young people away from the shooting sports, especially in NJ. One is the rather daunting requirements for the NJ FID card.</i></p>
<p>Which is precisely the purpose of that requirement.</p>
<p><i>Part of the problem is that even those interested in joining a club have a difficult time. We’re an internet generation…</i></p>
<p>Bingo!  It&#8217;s a huge problem, and it will end up killing a lot of gun clubs if they don&#8217;t get their act together.  Part of the problem is, as Michael points out, is that your typical mechanisms of coming into the sport are changing, and we have this old, antiquated club system that&#8217;s not ready to cope with it.</p>
<p>This is a disaster waiting to happen, because we <i>need</i> clubs to survive.  We desperately need them to adapt and attract younger people.</p>
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		<title>By: N.U.G.U.N.</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/01/saving-the-shooting-sports/#comment-30701</link>
		<dc:creator>N.U.G.U.N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the problem is that even those interested in joining a club have a difficult time. We&#039;re an internet generation... we search for the clubs online. We find sub-par websites with little to no information. Like this one...

http://www.yorkriflemen.org/

I and a co-worker are looking for a local place to shoot. We&#039;re interested in getting a bit more competitive too. Would like to find an affordable club near-by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the problem is that even those interested in joining a club have a difficult time. We&#8217;re an internet generation&#8230; we search for the clubs online. We find sub-par websites with little to no information. Like this one&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.yorkriflemen.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.yorkriflemen.org/</a></p>
<p>I and a co-worker are looking for a local place to shoot. We&#8217;re interested in getting a bit more competitive too. Would like to find an affordable club near-by.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/01/saving-the-shooting-sports/#comment-30694</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I belong to a relatively small club in northern NJ.  Our membership seems to also be in the forty to fifty year old range, but there are some bright spots.  For one we have an active junior club that we provide with rifles and ammunition, and while not all of our juniors become adult members some do.  We also have tried with some success to bring women into the club.  A few years ago we were able to open up our membership which was restricted to only local residents to include residents from surrounding towns which has doubled our membership.

There are some factors that may scare young people away from the shooting sports, especially in NJ.  One is the rather daunting requirements for the NJ FID card.  Another is the shear cost of guns today.  Few members are contented to shoot a used .38 Special revolver like I was when I joined 25 years ago.  Another problem is that housing in the area is prohibitively expensive with no one under the age of thirty moving into the area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I belong to a relatively small club in northern NJ.  Our membership seems to also be in the forty to fifty year old range, but there are some bright spots.  For one we have an active junior club that we provide with rifles and ammunition, and while not all of our juniors become adult members some do.  We also have tried with some success to bring women into the club.  A few years ago we were able to open up our membership which was restricted to only local residents to include residents from surrounding towns which has doubled our membership.</p>
<p>There are some factors that may scare young people away from the shooting sports, especially in NJ.  One is the rather daunting requirements for the NJ FID card.  Another is the shear cost of guns today.  Few members are contented to shoot a used .38 Special revolver like I was when I joined 25 years ago.  Another problem is that housing in the area is prohibitively expensive with no one under the age of thirty moving into the area.</p>
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