Comments on: On Being a New Jersey Gun Owner http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/09/08/on-being-a-new-jersey-gun-owner/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:54:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/09/08/on-being-a-new-jersey-gun-owner/#comment-34267 Sebastian Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:02:31 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5114#comment-34267 Jonas: Generally, if you have a rifle that's legal in NJ, it should be legal in New York, if you follow the transportation requirements. I will answer you in more detail when I've not had one too many thanksgiving bourbons. E-mail me if I don't. With NY, you don't get into too much trouble until you're talking pistols. But if by NY you mean NYC, that's a different ball game. Jonas:

Generally, if you have a rifle that’s legal in NJ, it should be legal in New York, if you follow the transportation requirements. I will answer you in more detail when I’ve not had one too many thanksgiving bourbons. E-mail me if I don’t.

With NY, you don’t get into too much trouble until you’re talking pistols. But if by NY you mean NYC, that’s a different ball game.

]]> By: GKJ http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/09/08/on-being-a-new-jersey-gun-owner/#comment-34266 GKJ Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:31:53 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5114#comment-34266 Looking for some advise from an experienced crowd. I live in NJ, and have a friend who owns 25 acres of land in upstate NY. I often go up there on the weekends to camp. He has several guns as we often plink away the afternoon. I recently applied for my own NJ F-ID with thoughts of buying a 10/22 to take up there with me. After reading the comments on this and other forums I am concerned though. Is it legal for me to: A) Transport my rifle from NJ to NY? (Assume rifle and ammunition are locked in the trunk. B) Will NY recognize my NJ permit if I an stopped 'north of the border'? If you can point me to anything online that covers this I would be grateful. I cannot find much that clearly states the rules. Looking for some advise from an experienced crowd.

I live in NJ, and have a friend who owns 25 acres of land in upstate NY. I often go up there on the weekends to camp. He has several guns as we often plink away the afternoon.

I recently applied for my own NJ F-ID with thoughts of buying a 10/22 to take up there with me.

After reading the comments on this and other forums I am concerned though.

Is it legal for me to:
A) Transport my rifle from NJ to NY? (Assume rifle and ammunition are locked in the trunk.
B) Will NY recognize my NJ permit if I an stopped ‘north of the border’?

If you can point me to anything online that covers this I would be grateful. I cannot find much that clearly states the rules.

]]> By: Dino D. http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/09/08/on-being-a-new-jersey-gun-owner/#comment-33728 Dino D. Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:42:22 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5114#comment-33728 Thank you for the info Sebastian, Dino D. Thank you for the info Sebastian, Dino D.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/09/08/on-being-a-new-jersey-gun-owner/#comment-33707 Sebastian Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:41:55 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5114#comment-33707 Well, if it's semi-automatic, it's not a machine gun. The question you're asking is whether it's considered an "assault firearm" under New Jersey law. It is not one of the enumerated firearms listed under New Jersey's assault firearm statutes, so it could be legal depending on its evil feature count. The 20 or 30 round magazine would be illegal. Previously, you could block a 20 round magazine so it would only accept 15, and this was OK. I had heard they were looking to change that, so that it would have to be inherently a smaller magazine that could not hold more than 15 rounds. Well, if it’s semi-automatic, it’s not a machine gun. The question you’re asking is whether it’s considered an “assault firearm” under New Jersey law. It is not one of the enumerated firearms listed under New Jersey’s assault firearm statutes, so it could be legal depending on its evil feature count.

The 20 or 30 round magazine would be illegal. Previously, you could block a 20 round magazine so it would only accept 15, and this was OK. I had heard they were looking to change that, so that it would have to be inherently a smaller magazine that could not hold more than 15 rounds.

]]> By: Dino D. http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/09/08/on-being-a-new-jersey-gun-owner/#comment-33706 Dino D. Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:29:40 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5114#comment-33706 Does anyone know if a Thompson semi-automatic machine gun is legal to own in NJ? I have heard of the 15 max capacity magazine, would owning a mag that is 15 rounds and none that are larger be legit? Or must I somehow permanently modify the gun to be a 15 round piece? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Does anyone know if a Thompson semi-automatic machine gun is legal to own in NJ? I have heard of the 15 max capacity magazine, would owning a mag that is 15 rounds and none that are larger be legit? Or must I somehow permanently modify the gun to be a 15 round piece? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

]]> By: mike (mjm0771) http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/09/08/on-being-a-new-jersey-gun-owner/#comment-33000 mike (mjm0771) Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:31:49 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5114#comment-33000 A grassroots movement has begun to loosen the noose on law-abiding gun owners in New Jersey! Please visit the community forums at www.njcsd.org for all the details. A grassroots movement has begun to loosen the noose on law-abiding gun owners in New Jersey! Please visit the community forums at http://www.njcsd.org for all the details.

]]> By: Joel http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/09/08/on-being-a-new-jersey-gun-owner/#comment-31865 Joel Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:03:40 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5114#comment-31865 I was a Curio & Relics FFL holder in NJ. Also, I had my NJ state permit to purchase. My 25,000.00 dollar collection, which consisted of WWII firearms, one my father in law got while in France during the war, was confiscated as a result of having a high cap mag in my possession. After a night in the Bergen County jail, I was freed on 50,000 dollars bail (5,000 at 10%) to later hire a lawyer for 7,000 dollars to represent me. After the embarassment of having my picture with my collection in the papers, on TV and the internet,having my family devastated, I received 2 years probation. Never have I been arrested or in jail, I am 57 years old, a Verizon retiree who has worked all his life. Still, I do not understand how I could be treated as such a criminal and loose my rights along with an expensive collection. Some of the "initial charges were total lies! Bottom line, my lawyer convinced me to surrender my liscenses because "they want the guns off the streets." To say that I am upset is an understatement. After the arrest I ended up in the hospital with chest pains and shortness of breath. To the state police, this all seemed like a joke. If I collect again, it won't be in this state. But I would like my regular NJ firearms ID back. Any suggestions I was a Curio & Relics FFL holder in NJ. Also, I had my NJ state permit to purchase. My 25,000.00 dollar collection, which consisted of WWII firearms, one my father in law got while in France during the war, was confiscated as a result of having a high cap mag in my possession. After a night in the Bergen County
jail, I was freed on 50,000 dollars bail (5,000 at 10%) to later hire a lawyer for 7,000 dollars to represent me. After the embarassment of having my picture with my collection in the papers, on TV and the internet,having my family devastated, I received 2 years probation. Never have I been arrested or in jail, I am 57 years old, a Verizon retiree who has worked all his life. Still, I do not understand how I could be treated as such a criminal and loose my rights along with an expensive collection. Some of the “initial charges were total lies!
Bottom line, my lawyer convinced me to surrender my liscenses because “they want the guns off the streets.” To say that I am upset is an understatement. After the arrest I ended up in the hospital with chest pains and shortness of breath. To the state police, this all seemed like a joke. If I collect again, it won’t be in this state. But I would like my regular NJ firearms ID back. Any suggestions

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/09/08/on-being-a-new-jersey-gun-owner/#comment-29786 Sebastian Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:15 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5114#comment-29786 Hollow points are only legal in New Jersey under exceptions, such as for hunting, in the home, and a few other limited exceptions. If you're tooling around with one in your car, you are breaking the law. Hollow points are only legal in New Jersey under exceptions, such as for hunting, in the home, and a few other limited exceptions. If you’re tooling around with one in your car, you are breaking the law.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/09/08/on-being-a-new-jersey-gun-owner/#comment-29785 Sebastian Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:31:31 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5114#comment-29785 Moose: Your wife got off lucky. People have spent tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees and still gone to jail. Moose:

Your wife got off lucky. People have spent tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees and still gone to jail.

]]> By: Moose http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/09/08/on-being-a-new-jersey-gun-owner/#comment-29783 Moose Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:25:33 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=5114#comment-29783 The NJ State police web site says hollow points are legal but my wife from PA with a carry permit got pulled over for right turn on red, cop saw a clip in the glove box and they arrested her for possession of hollow points. Bottom line it cost around $1200.00 in legal fees to dismiss the case. One more way to fleece the common man out of his money. Its all about justifying and funding some politicians lifestyle. The NJ State police web site says hollow points are legal but my wife from PA with a carry permit got pulled over for right turn on red, cop saw a clip in the glove box and they arrested her for possession of hollow points. Bottom line it cost around $1200.00 in legal fees to dismiss the case. One more way to fleece the common man out of his money. Its all about justifying and funding some politicians lifestyle.

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