Comments on: Careful Over There http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/28/careful-over-there/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:01:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Navy Vet from Jersey http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/28/careful-over-there/#comment-29015 Navy Vet from Jersey Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:48:47 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4922#comment-29015 It was not until I got in the Navy, and met so many other people from across the country, that I gained the impression that so many people from across the country hate New Jersey. Stories such as Mark B's above now make me understand why. It was not until I got in the Navy, and met so many other people from across the country, that I gained the impression that so many people from across the country hate New Jersey.

Stories such as Mark B’s above now make me understand why.

]]> By: Mark B http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/28/careful-over-there/#comment-29005 Mark B Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:07:33 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4922#comment-29005 I live in SC. My CWP instructor was a police officer for the city of Greenville. Back in '98 when I took his course he told us of a group of officers from the GPD who had to travel through NJ on their way to some Law Enforcement type instruction. They called ahead along the route that they would travel to find out how different states wanted certain types of equipment transported. NJ flatly told them that if anybody came into NJ with any firearms, they would be arrested. No professional courtesy would be extended to LEOs. They made arrangements to not travel through NJ. Welcome to the PRNJ! I live in SC. My CWP instructor was a police officer for the city of Greenville. Back in ’98 when I took his course he told us of a group of officers from the GPD who had to travel through NJ on their way to some Law Enforcement type instruction. They called ahead along the route that they would travel to find out how different states wanted certain types of equipment transported. NJ flatly told them that if anybody came into NJ with any firearms, they would be arrested. No professional courtesy would be extended to LEOs. They made arrangements to not travel through NJ.

Welcome to the PRNJ!

]]> By: chris http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/28/careful-over-there/#comment-28971 chris Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:08:10 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4922#comment-28971 They are not illegal until they are put in a gun. You are allowed to have them in your home. You can have them loaded in a gun in your home. You are allowed to transport them to a range and shoot them at the range. You are NOT allowed to have them loaded in a gun outside of your home or a range. They are not illegal until they are put in a gun.

You are allowed to have them in your home. You can have them loaded in a gun in your home. You are allowed to transport them to a range and shoot them at the range.

You are NOT allowed to have them loaded in a gun outside of your home or a range.

]]> By: Stuck in Jersey http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/28/careful-over-there/#comment-28968 Stuck in Jersey Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:52:29 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4922#comment-28968 I don't know what exactly makes HP's illegal in NJ, but go to any gun show, and they've got them, along with the wax/plastic versions, which I'm told, are not really HP's, but they function the same way. Nellie, who comments here, sums it up, second response btw...... http://volokh.com/posts/1177026951.shtml I don’t know what exactly makes HP’s illegal in NJ, but go to any gun show, and they’ve got them, along with the wax/plastic versions, which I’m told, are not really HP’s, but they function the same way.

Nellie, who comments here, sums it up, second response btw……

http://volokh.com/posts/1177026951.shtml

]]> By: TangoSix http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/28/careful-over-there/#comment-28965 TangoSix Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:27:28 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4922#comment-28965 Evan (Nappen), a dear fellow, has said: the difference between Pennsylvania and New Jersey is that, in Pennsylvania everything (weapon-wise) is legal - with certain exceptions; in New Jersey everything is illegal - with certain exceptions. I know they have arrested travelers passing through the state; they have harassed Pa Cops; and, they've even tried to bust Federal law enforcement officers. One notes that, in going over to New Jersey, the bridges are free, however, in coming back to Pennsylvania, one must pay a toll: I've always considered this to be a ransom. Old saying: Will the last American out of New Jersey please bring the colors." Evan (Nappen), a dear fellow, has said: the difference between Pennsylvania and New Jersey is that, in Pennsylvania everything (weapon-wise) is legal – with certain exceptions; in New Jersey everything is illegal – with certain exceptions. I know they have arrested travelers passing through the state; they have harassed Pa Cops; and, they’ve even tried to bust Federal law enforcement officers.

One notes that, in going over to New Jersey, the bridges are free, however, in coming back to Pennsylvania, one must pay a toll: I’ve always considered this to be a ransom.

Old saying: Will the last American out of New Jersey please bring the colors.”

]]> By: mike w. http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/28/careful-over-there/#comment-28964 mike w. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:21:47 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4922#comment-28964 I suppose you could use JSP's or EFMJ's, though I wouldn't want to be stopped and have to explain that while they aren't FMJ they're not HP's either. I suppose you could use JSP’s or EFMJ’s, though I wouldn’t want to be stopped and have to explain that while they aren’t FMJ they’re not HP’s either.

]]> By: Weer'd Beard http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/28/careful-over-there/#comment-28952 Weer'd Beard Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:39:21 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4922#comment-28952 That's NOTHING! In Mass our opression is BETTER! Here not only will a .22 (Hollow or solid) land you in Jail, but even spent cases, bullets, even novelty jewlry made from ammo could land you in the grey bar hotel if you don't have a mass firearms licence ($100 + Training course good for only 1 year for non-residents) That’s NOTHING! In Mass our opression is BETTER! Here not only will a .22 (Hollow or solid) land you in Jail, but even spent cases, bullets, even novelty jewlry made from ammo could land you in the grey bar hotel if you don’t have a mass firearms licence ($100 + Training course good for only 1 year for non-residents)

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/28/careful-over-there/#comment-28951 Sebastian Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:34:17 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4922#comment-28951 The Hollow point ammo law dates back to 1978 The Hollow point ammo law dates back to 1978

]]> By: OrangeNeckInNY http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/28/careful-over-there/#comment-28950 OrangeNeckInNY Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:16:39 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4922#comment-28950 It's sad but true. Hollow point ammo is banned in NJ. NYC police officers crossing over into NJ is liable to get arrested just like the rest of us, because NY cops use Hollow Point bullets in their firearms. Why? Because Hollow Point ammo do not ricochet like FMJ bullets do. FMJ bullets are what NJ cops are required to use. They banned HP bullets (in a round of 'feel-good' legislation idiocy) because the idiot politicians think they are more dangerous than FMJs, but they don't realize that FMJs have a greater tendency to ricochet and hit an innocent bystander. NY Police adopted the use of HP bullets because of this. This is the perfect example of not using any common sense from the folks over there in NJ. HOWEVER, if you use a Jacketed Hollow Point, there's no way they can tell, is there? It’s sad but true. Hollow point ammo is banned in NJ. NYC police officers crossing over into NJ is liable to get arrested just like the rest of us, because NY cops use Hollow Point bullets in their firearms. Why? Because Hollow Point ammo do not ricochet like FMJ bullets do. FMJ bullets are what NJ cops are required to use. They banned HP bullets (in a round of ‘feel-good’ legislation idiocy) because the idiot politicians think they are more dangerous than FMJs, but they don’t realize that FMJs have a greater tendency to ricochet and hit an innocent bystander. NY Police adopted the use of HP bullets because of this. This is the perfect example of not using any common sense from the folks over there in NJ. HOWEVER, if you use a Jacketed Hollow Point, there’s no way they can tell, is there?

]]> By: Mike w. http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/28/careful-over-there/#comment-28949 Mike w. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:10:38 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4922#comment-28949 If I can I'd like to avoid ever traveling into New Jersey. If I can I’d like to avoid ever traveling into New Jersey.

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