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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s About the Bill of Rights, Not Profits</title>
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	<description>The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ...</description>
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		<title>By: The Right To Bear Arms &#187; Change In The Air: Gun Lobby To Gun Industry</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/21/its-about-the-bill-of-rights-not-profits/#comment-28748</link>
		<dc:creator>The Right To Bear Arms &#187; Change In The Air: Gun Lobby To Gun Industry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, Sebastian had an entry up where he noted uber gun-grabber Bryan Miller was attempting to portray the gun industry as the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jason The Saj</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/21/its-about-the-bill-of-rights-not-profits/#comment-28717</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason The Saj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still don&#039;t see what all the big hoopla is. I mean this goes on all the time in so many circles.

I mean is this ANY different than an avid anti-gunner having a gun dealer&#039;s license so he can attend gun dealer only shows. Nope. Not really...

- The Saj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still don&#8217;t see what all the big hoopla is. I mean this goes on all the time in so many circles.</p>
<p>I mean is this ANY different than an avid anti-gunner having a gun dealer&#8217;s license so he can attend gun dealer only shows. Nope. Not really&#8230;</p>
<p>- The Saj</p>
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		<title>By: tjbbpgob</title>
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		<dc:creator>tjbbpgob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Extremism in defence of liberty is no vice&quot; Barry Goldwater</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Extremism in defence of liberty is no vice&#8221; Barry Goldwater</p>
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		<title>By: Test Blog - Friday Gunzookery - 22 Aug 2008</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/21/its-about-the-bill-of-rights-not-profits/#comment-28597</link>
		<dc:creator>Test Blog - Friday Gunzookery - 22 Aug 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#039;s About the Bill of Rights, Not Profits Would it be wrong to try to gain insider knowledge on a group of people who were intent on silencing newspapers, and ending all publishing in the United States? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s About the Bill of Rights, Not Profits Would it be wrong to try to gain insider knowledge on a group of people who were intent on silencing newspapers, and ending all publishing in the United States? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DirtCrashr</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/21/its-about-the-bill-of-rights-not-profits/#comment-28586</link>
		<dc:creator>DirtCrashr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He looses it when his argument descends to third-grade Marxist jibber-jabber about &quot;evil profits&quot; without even proof or evidence of her Wheelbarrows of Cash.  I&#039;m hiding my wheelbarrows of cash in the Cayman Islands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He looses it when his argument descends to third-grade Marxist jibber-jabber about &#8220;evil profits&#8221; without even proof or evidence of her Wheelbarrows of Cash.  I&#8217;m hiding my wheelbarrows of cash in the Cayman Islands.</p>
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		<title>By: jones</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/21/its-about-the-bill-of-rights-not-profits/#comment-28574</link>
		<dc:creator>jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see McFate much differently than AHSA, Gun Guys, and the myriad drones who write letters saying &quot;I am a gun owner, but....&quot;

Will the Hoplophobes come out and be honest 100% of the time.  If not, they should stop whining about getting burned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see McFate much differently than AHSA, Gun Guys, and the myriad drones who write letters saying &#8220;I am a gun owner, but&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Will the Hoplophobes come out and be honest 100% of the time.  If not, they should stop whining about getting burned.</p>
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		<title>By: ParatrooperJJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ParatrooperJJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is just good intellegence.  I hope we have other agents in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just good intellegence.  I hope we have other agents in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/08/21/its-about-the-bill-of-rights-not-profits/#comment-28570</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Would it be wrong to try to gain insider knowledge on a group of people who were...&quot; 

It really isn&#039;t all that different, in my mind, from spying on the Soviets.  I&#039;m all for getting inside info about groups who want to undo the American way of life.

On the other hand, there&#039;s still really no solid proof that the NRA is behind Mary&#039;s actions.  We&#039;ve all been assuming it is and agreeing it is OK, but from what I&#039;ve read the evidence is only circumstantial.  

But you are right that this is A) nothing new, and B) the same tactics they have/will  use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Would it be wrong to try to gain insider knowledge on a group of people who were&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>It really isn&#8217;t all that different, in my mind, from spying on the Soviets.  I&#8217;m all for getting inside info about groups who want to undo the American way of life.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there&#8217;s still really no solid proof that the NRA is behind Mary&#8217;s actions.  We&#8217;ve all been assuming it is and agreeing it is OK, but from what I&#8217;ve read the evidence is only circumstantial.  </p>
<p>But you are right that this is A) nothing new, and B) the same tactics they have/will  use.</p>
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		<title>By: ATL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ATL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anon,

You have a good point. But obviously I’m not meaning “shoot them” tactics. But it’s not like opposition research is outside of DC norms, and it’s not like they haven’t tried this with us.&quot;

True,

Remember we are in an enviable position. They are the ones who have to explain away our rights. We hold the high ground. I do not think oppositional research is wrong; I just believe it is wrong for us. It will do us no good in the long run and believe it hurts our reputation. We are fighting this from a standpoint of virtue. Our rights (all of them) are sacred and undeniable. For us to stoop to their level I believe will hurt us ultimately. I think there their big whine-fest is hypocritical. I remember the stories I used to hear of anti-gunners going into gun shows and loading in rounds in pistols for the hopes of negligent discharge. Their underhanded tactics are well-known and without any semblance shame. For them to whine now after they got pwned is really pathetic....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anon,</p>
<p>You have a good point. But obviously I’m not meaning “shoot them” tactics. But it’s not like opposition research is outside of DC norms, and it’s not like they haven’t tried this with us.&#8221;</p>
<p>True,</p>
<p>Remember we are in an enviable position. They are the ones who have to explain away our rights. We hold the high ground. I do not think oppositional research is wrong; I just believe it is wrong for us. It will do us no good in the long run and believe it hurts our reputation. We are fighting this from a standpoint of virtue. Our rights (all of them) are sacred and undeniable. For us to stoop to their level I believe will hurt us ultimately. I think there their big whine-fest is hypocritical. I remember the stories I used to hear of anti-gunners going into gun shows and loading in rounds in pistols for the hopes of negligent discharge. Their underhanded tactics are well-known and without any semblance shame. For them to whine now after they got pwned is really pathetic&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon,

You have a good point.  But obviously I&#039;m not meaning &quot;shoot them&quot; tactics.  But it&#039;s not like opposition research is outside of DC norms, and it&#039;s not like they haven&#039;t tried this with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon,</p>
<p>You have a good point.  But obviously I&#8217;m not meaning &#8220;shoot them&#8221; tactics.  But it&#8217;s not like opposition research is outside of DC norms, and it&#8217;s not like they haven&#8217;t tried this with us.</p>
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