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	<title>Comments on: The Purpose of the Second Amendment</title>
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		<title>By: Kurt "45superman" Hofmann</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/26/the-purpose-of-the-second-amendment/#comment-27253</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt "45superman" Hofmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Maybe I’m more sensitive about how you say things than most, but there’s a big difference between talking to the public about why the second amendment is important, and saying if you get a political result you don’t like, you’re going to start shooting, without first exhausting the political and legal processes as a means of redressing your grievance.  Kozinski speaks of the second amendment as a doomsday provision, which it is.  I think the public can understand and accept it in that light.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;   To say, &quot; . . . if you get a political result you don&#039;t like . . . &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;  kind of trivializes the ramifications of moves designed to render moot a Constitutionally guaranteed fundamental human right, does it not?  I mean, &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; use of violence by people against their government, whether justified or not, is provoked by &quot;a political result [they didn&#039;t] like.&quot;

I&#039;ll also point out that although I certainly agree with Judge Kozinski, when you think of the Second Amendment as the last ditch defense of liberty (and I think we all, including the Judge, do think of it that way), then we have to consider that attempts to render it meaningless would be the &lt;i&gt;precursor&lt;/i&gt; to the nightmare scenarios he discusses--a would-be tyrant doesn&#039;t refuse to stand for reelection &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; disarming the people, he disarms them first, so he doesn&#039;t have to answer to them.

Once RKBA is sufficiently watered down, we can&#039;t count on there &lt;i&gt;being&lt;/i&gt; a political process to fix it. 

&lt;i&gt;That&lt;/i&gt;, I submit, is why we need to be clear that one way or another, we&#039;re keeping our &quot;assault weapons,&quot; we&#039;re not registering them, they won&#039;t have to be &quot;smart,&quot; or microstamp the cartridge brass (and ammo won&#039;t have to be microstamped), etc. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://chris-horton.blogspot.com/2008/07/v.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;III&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Maybe I’m more sensitive about how you say things than most, but there’s a big difference between talking to the public about why the second amendment is important, and saying if you get a political result you don’t like, you’re going to start shooting, without first exhausting the political and legal processes as a means of redressing your grievance.  Kozinski speaks of the second amendment as a doomsday provision, which it is.  I think the public can understand and accept it in that light.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>   To say, &#8221; . . . if you get a political result you don&#8217;t like . . .   kind of trivializes the ramifications of moves designed to render moot a Constitutionally guaranteed fundamental human right, does it not?  I mean, <i>every</i> use of violence by people against their government, whether justified or not, is provoked by &#8220;a political result [they didn't] like.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also point out that although I certainly agree with Judge Kozinski, when you think of the Second Amendment as the last ditch defense of liberty (and I think we all, including the Judge, do think of it that way), then we have to consider that attempts to render it meaningless would be the <i>precursor</i> to the nightmare scenarios he discusses&#8211;a would-be tyrant doesn&#8217;t refuse to stand for reelection <i>before</i> disarming the people, he disarms them first, so he doesn&#8217;t have to answer to them.</p>
<p>Once RKBA is sufficiently watered down, we can&#8217;t count on there <i>being</i> a political process to fix it. </p>
<p><i>That</i>, I submit, is why we need to be clear that one way or another, we&#8217;re keeping our &#8220;assault weapons,&#8221; we&#8217;re not registering them, they won&#8217;t have to be &#8220;smart,&#8221; or microstamp the cartridge brass (and ammo won&#8217;t have to be microstamped), etc. </p>
<p><a href="http://chris-horton.blogspot.com/2008/07/v.html" rel="nofollow">III</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/26/the-purpose-of-the-second-amendment/#comment-27233</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.  I fixed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  I fixed it.</p>
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		<title>By: CorbinKale</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/26/the-purpose-of-the-second-amendment/#comment-27219</link>
		<dc:creator>CorbinKale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we have 1000 years, or maybe 100 days. I hope that people would take advantage of this time we have been provided by the 2nd Amendment to prepare. If you wait until you REALLY need it, it will likely be too late to order that case of rounds you have been considering.

Contemplate the many millions of citizens who have been murdered by their own governments in just the past century. They never thought it would happen, either. They died incredulous, thinking, &quot;If only...&quot;. I am hoping that never happens in the U.S., but I am preparing, just in case. If nothing ever happens, I lose nothing by being prepared, for I just rotate my ammo stocks, but if the worst happens and I am NOT prepared, it costs me everything. Hell, I buy car insurance, but not because I INTEND to crash my car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we have 1000 years, or maybe 100 days. I hope that people would take advantage of this time we have been provided by the 2nd Amendment to prepare. If you wait until you REALLY need it, it will likely be too late to order that case of rounds you have been considering.</p>
<p>Contemplate the many millions of citizens who have been murdered by their own governments in just the past century. They never thought it would happen, either. They died incredulous, thinking, &#8220;If only&#8230;&#8221;. I am hoping that never happens in the U.S., but I am preparing, just in case. If nothing ever happens, I lose nothing by being prepared, for I just rotate my ammo stocks, but if the worst happens and I am NOT prepared, it costs me everything. Hell, I buy car insurance, but not because I INTEND to crash my car.</p>
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		<title>By: Arizona Rifleman</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/26/the-purpose-of-the-second-amendment/#comment-27216</link>
		<dc:creator>Arizona Rifleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Kozinski speaks of the &lt;strike&gt;first&lt;/strike&gt;second amendment as a doomsday provision, which it is.&lt;/I&gt;

Fixed that for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Kozinski speaks of the <strike>first</strike>second amendment as a doomsday provision, which it is.</i></p>
<p>Fixed that for you.</p>
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