Comments on: Not Getting Machine Gun Rights Anytime Soon

By: Flash Gordon

Flash Gordon — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:44:57 +0000

I wonder if existing owners of pre-1986 sub guns would fight the repeal of Hughes because a repeal would knock about 75% of the value off of their guns, now valued in the many thousands of dollars.

By: deadcenter

deadcenter — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:49:10 +0000

It’s going to take education starting at the grassroots level and progressing upwards. Educate people about what NFA weapons are and how they are controlled. That they are not now and never have been banned or made illegal from private ownership. Complete the paperwork, pass the background check, pay the 200 dollars for the tax stamp and write a check for roughly six times what the weapon is worth, and you too can own a machine gun. Too many people are under the misconception that they are illegal to own. Keep educating those that are misinformed. It won’t be an easy process, it won’t be a fast process, but it will be easier and faster with the intarwebz, so long as the facts are stated in plain language and the enemies of gun ownership are buried in facts and logical arguments.

my opinion anyway.

By: teqjack

teqjack — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:11:39 +0000

Sixty-seven percent of those surveyed said felons who have paid their debt to society should not have a right to own a gun…

This is a bit troubling. Sounds fine – until you know some of the things that are felonies. Like wearing a bracelet. Yep. A few years ago a young woman in Cambridge mAsS was told by a man in the street that her bracelet (leather band with pyramid-shaped studs) was illegal and she could be convicted on weapons charges for having it: she checked with a nearby cop who confirmed it – which annoyed the first man who did not like being doubted, who then revealed himself to be a detective, and threatened her…

Or a case in California. Armed thief takes two convenience-store employees into a back room. He then tells one to tie up the other: while this is happening, the thief is momentarily distracted and the employee takes the chance (OK, maybe stupid), successfully attacking the thief, getting the gun, calling police. Employee is then arrested and held, to be transferred to State prison – because he is on parole, and being “in possession” of a gun violates it. Matter dropped after newspaper story generates protests.

By: chris

chris — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:19:07 +0000

i can see a better challenge to the NFA rules than getting rid of hughes. The fact that you have to have a CLEO signature and that many CLEO’s will not sign the paper even if you meet all other requirements makes the entire NFA system “arbitrary and capricious” and it also violates equal protection by allowing residents of one county to do things that their neighbors cannot.

By: JJR

JJR — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:57:58 +0000

Nomen,
You and I may be Leftists, but Obama isn’t. That’s becoming clearer every day.
However, he does have an authoritarian/messianic streak and an anti-gun past.

And would have lots more power as a chief executive thanks to G.W.Bush’s legacy.
*shudder*

Anyway, been there done that; Have myself a WASR-10 and an AR-15, and a chicom SKS. I even bought a hi-cap Mini-14 mag from Academy, and I don’t own a Mini-14.

By: SayUncle » Oh, those white people

SayUncle » Oh, those white people — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:30:02 +0000

[...] in Alabama, a solid majority don’t support your right to own a machine gun. It’s a political reality. Deal with [...]

By: Nomen Nescio

Nomen Nescio — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:52:15 +0000

i’ve been calling this election for the GOP since shortly after the 2004 one, and my analysis hasn’t changed; if the Dems can’t win by a landslide, they can’t win at all — and Obama doesn’t look like a landslide winner to me.

that said… if he does win, he’ll probably do the country a lot of good, and i’m buying me an AK-clone before he’s inaugurated. possibly a Glock, too, while i’m at it. and perhaps take a look at what the local pawn shop wants for an AR, if i can get there before they sell out. i may be a leftist, but i’m not stone blind…

By: Libertarian

Libertarian — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:18:20 +0000

If Obama gets elected this November, I predict there will be a mad rush to buy up semi-autos and high-capacity magazines before they get banned again.

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:08:32 +0000

It may look very different in 20 years. I would not wager anything on a time line that long. In ten years, after 8 years of Obama and an filibuster proof Democratic Congress, things may very well look different indeed.

By: Libertarian

Libertarian — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:03:22 +0000

Has anyone here ever tried bump-firing their semi-auto weapons? It seems just as good as having a full-auto, and it’s still legal almost everywhere, I think.