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		<title>By: B Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/18/just-say-no/#comment-26524</link>
		<dc:creator>B Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just say &#039;no&#039; to DC and its culture of corruption and deceit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just say &#8216;no&#8217; to DC and its culture of corruption and deceit</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/18/just-say-no/#comment-26493</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cross posted this over at SayUncle:

Just thought of something vis-a-vis NEW handguns…when such time arrives that an FFL will do a transfer:

By DC law:

You need to submit the gun for ballistic testing to get a registration.

But to take delivery of a gun from an FFL, you need a completed/approved registration. (which you can’t get without the ballistic test!)

The (il)logical conclusion is: There is no way to submit a new gun for ballistic testing, because you can’t take possession of the gun without an approved registration, which requires ballistic testing.

It is legally IMPOSSIBLE to register a new gun in DC.

The new DC laws do NOT comply with Heller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cross posted this over at SayUncle:</p>
<p>Just thought of something vis-a-vis NEW handguns…when such time arrives that an FFL will do a transfer:</p>
<p>By DC law:</p>
<p>You need to submit the gun for ballistic testing to get a registration.</p>
<p>But to take delivery of a gun from an FFL, you need a completed/approved registration. (which you can’t get without the ballistic test!)</p>
<p>The (il)logical conclusion is: There is no way to submit a new gun for ballistic testing, because you can’t take possession of the gun without an approved registration, which requires ballistic testing.</p>
<p>It is legally IMPOSSIBLE to register a new gun in DC.</p>
<p>The new DC laws do NOT comply with Heller.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/18/just-say-no/#comment-26492</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;She’s basically saying that DC residents are too irresponsible and criminal to own guns.&quot;

Well, if we&#039;re talking about the DC residents that voted HER into office...I&#039;d kinda have to agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She’s basically saying that DC residents are too irresponsible and criminal to own guns.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, if we&#8217;re talking about the DC residents that voted HER into office&#8230;I&#8217;d kinda have to agree.</p>
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		<title>By: gattsuru</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/18/just-say-no/#comment-26486</link>
		<dc:creator>gattsuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;According to an article in the Washington Post, there is only ONE FFL holder in Washington D.C. and he’s not selling any guns; he’s just doing the transfers if you happen to buy one from outside the District&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are six FFLs that I&#039;m aware of.  It&#039;s just that most of them, such as a BATFE office or the Violence Policy Center, are not willing to transfer firearms to law-abiding citizens.

Sorry to nitpick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>According to an article in the Washington Post, there is only ONE FFL holder in Washington D.C. and he’s not selling any guns; he’s just doing the transfers if you happen to buy one from outside the District</p></blockquote>
<p>There are six FFLs that I&#8217;m aware of.  It&#8217;s just that most of them, such as a BATFE office or the Violence Policy Center, are not willing to transfer firearms to law-abiding citizens.</p>
<p>Sorry to nitpick.</p>
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		<title>By: RedneckInNY</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/18/just-say-no/#comment-26483</link>
		<dc:creator>RedneckInNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to an article in the Washington Post, there is only ONE FFL holder in Washington D.C. and he&#039;s not selling any guns; he&#039;s just doing the transfers if you happen to buy one from outside the District.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to an article in the Washington Post, there is only ONE FFL holder in Washington D.C. and he&#8217;s not selling any guns; he&#8217;s just doing the transfers if you happen to buy one from outside the District.</p>
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		<title>By: RedneckInNY</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/18/just-say-no/#comment-26482</link>
		<dc:creator>RedneckInNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to an article in the Washington Post, there is only ONE FFL holder in Washington D.C. and he&#039;s not selling any guns; he&#039;s just doing the transfers if you happen to buy one from outside the District.  You can read it here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071702680.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to an article in the Washington Post, there is only ONE FFL holder in Washington D.C. and he&#8217;s not selling any guns; he&#8217;s just doing the transfers if you happen to buy one from outside the District.  You can read it here: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071702680.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071702680.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/18/just-say-no/#comment-26480</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric R. Shelton: in some cases, I gather the latter (&quot;they&#039;re opposed to armed citizens, able to defend themselves&quot;).

There&#039;s a concept called anarcho-tyranny in which the government implements a tyranny that is in part enforced by creating anarchy in desired areas.

Tony Blair has been *quite* explicit about his desire to destroy the rural ... culture ... or parts of the U.K. (can&#039;t remember the quote, I should try to find it again), and we&#039;ve seen what happened when his Labor government removed a large fraction of the police for those areas in a regime that he inherited where case law made self-defense per se effectively illegal and statue and administration almost entirely outlawed gun ownership, and I&#039;m pretty sure legally useless for self-defense due to &quot;lock up your safety&quot; law (plus the case law that would require a criminal to also have a gun).

The U.K. now has the highest violent crime rate in the developed world, and the murder rate is rising none too slowly.

The above are well all documented hard facts.  Something I heard when I lived in Arlington, VA for a dozen years is that if a part of D.C. voted the wrong way, they were denied police protection.  (Note that e.g. the Congress has its own Capitol Police who guard their residences in D.C., and there are I&#039;m sure other convenient exceptions; as Mr. Heller noted on the day of oral hearings, the Mayor certainly is well protected by the police.)

In an environment where the use of a gun for self-defense was de jure illegal (although prosecutors wouldn&#039;t always press charges and jury nullification certainly happened), this is quite an effective way to punish people.  Certainly better than Singapore not maintaining your apartments....

I&#039;ve recently realized this is simply a variant on the old pattern of the ruling class allying themselves with the lower class against the middle.  And in D.C. this alliance is often a bit more than implicit....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric R. Shelton: in some cases, I gather the latter (&#8220;they&#8217;re opposed to armed citizens, able to defend themselves&#8221;).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a concept called anarcho-tyranny in which the government implements a tyranny that is in part enforced by creating anarchy in desired areas.</p>
<p>Tony Blair has been *quite* explicit about his desire to destroy the rural &#8230; culture &#8230; or parts of the U.K. (can&#8217;t remember the quote, I should try to find it again), and we&#8217;ve seen what happened when his Labor government removed a large fraction of the police for those areas in a regime that he inherited where case law made self-defense per se effectively illegal and statue and administration almost entirely outlawed gun ownership, and I&#8217;m pretty sure legally useless for self-defense due to &#8220;lock up your safety&#8221; law (plus the case law that would require a criminal to also have a gun).</p>
<p>The U.K. now has the highest violent crime rate in the developed world, and the murder rate is rising none too slowly.</p>
<p>The above are well all documented hard facts.  Something I heard when I lived in Arlington, VA for a dozen years is that if a part of D.C. voted the wrong way, they were denied police protection.  (Note that e.g. the Congress has its own Capitol Police who guard their residences in D.C., and there are I&#8217;m sure other convenient exceptions; as Mr. Heller noted on the day of oral hearings, the Mayor certainly is well protected by the police.)</p>
<p>In an environment where the use of a gun for self-defense was de jure illegal (although prosecutors wouldn&#8217;t always press charges and jury nullification certainly happened), this is quite an effective way to punish people.  Certainly better than Singapore not maintaining your apartments&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve recently realized this is simply a variant on the old pattern of the ruling class allying themselves with the lower class against the middle.  And in D.C. this alliance is often a bit more than implicit&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jones</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/18/just-say-no/#comment-26475</link>
		<dc:creator>jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s up to us now&quot;


That is called Liberty, dear.


And one more thing.

Yes, yes.  YES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s up to us now&#8221;</p>
<p>That is called Liberty, dear.</p>
<p>And one more thing.</p>
<p>Yes, yes.  YES!</p>
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		<title>By: AntiCitizenOne</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/18/just-say-no/#comment-26474</link>
		<dc:creator>AntiCitizenOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well hey, more for the rest of us who aren&#039;t ignorant like Miss Norton or any of the ilk that buy into her philosophy.

I want a Kimber Warrior badly...can&#039;t believe it&#039;ll be 8 more months until I turn 21...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well hey, more for the rest of us who aren&#8217;t ignorant like Miss Norton or any of the ilk that buy into her philosophy.</p>
<p>I want a Kimber Warrior badly&#8230;can&#8217;t believe it&#8217;ll be 8 more months until I turn 21&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric R. Shelton</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/07/18/just-say-no/#comment-26473</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric R. Shelton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just have to wonder if they&#039;re truly hoplophobes, or if they&#039;re opposed to armed citizens, able to defend themselves.  Because if a person was to exercise any reason and simply look at the facts, there&#039;s no legitimate to deny a law abiding populace access to firearms.

That quote attributed to Sarah Brady, &quot;Our goal of establishing a socialist America&quot;, etc. seems to have more and more truth to it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have to wonder if they&#8217;re truly hoplophobes, or if they&#8217;re opposed to armed citizens, able to defend themselves.  Because if a person was to exercise any reason and simply look at the facts, there&#8217;s no legitimate to deny a law abiding populace access to firearms.</p>
<p>That quote attributed to Sarah Brady, &#8220;Our goal of establishing a socialist America&#8221;, etc. seems to have more and more truth to it&#8230;</p>
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