Comments on: Dipshits from Our Side http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/06/26/dipshits-from-our-side/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:01:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alcibiades McZombie http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/06/26/dipshits-from-our-side/#comment-25396 Alcibiades McZombie Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:51:37 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3867#comment-25396 Strange, their post seems to have been renumbered. Might it have been edited? (But it still seems as crazy as before.) The original version is still in Google's cache, however. Strange, their post seems to have been renumbered. Might it have been edited? (But it still seems as crazy as before.)

The original version is still in Google’s cache, however.

]]> By: Too Lazy to Fail » Blog Archive » My First and Last Heller Post http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/06/26/dipshits-from-our-side/#comment-25352 Too Lazy to Fail » Blog Archive » My First and Last Heller Post Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:32:06 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3867#comment-25352 [...] also been mentioned that had Gore or Kerry been President, the Second Amendment would be gone today. I don’t think that’s the case. The move by [...] [...] also been mentioned that had Gore or Kerry been President, the Second Amendment would be gone today. I don’t think that’s the case. The move by [...]

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/06/26/dipshits-from-our-side/#comment-25351 Sebastian Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:56:44 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3867#comment-25351 Because the court said no such thing. The only thing the court pretty strongly indicated were off the table was laws regarding felons, the mentally ill, and certain time/place restrictions on carrying of arms, without going much beyond schools and government buildings that might be "sensitive". They also indicated they'd uphold commercial regulations on firearms, though they didn't go into any detail as to what kind of commercial regulations would be acceptable. The court left most everything on the table for us to challenge at a later date, and took the entire collective rights nonsense off the table. To argue that it's anything other than a victory is just, to be blunt, fucking crazy. I would have been happy if Scalia had come out and ruled "machine guns for everyone" but we knew that wasn't going to happen. This didn't take much off the table for us, but it took <i>a lot</i> off the table for the other side. Because the court said no such thing. The only thing the court pretty strongly indicated were off the table was laws regarding felons, the mentally ill, and certain time/place restrictions on carrying of arms, without going much beyond schools and government buildings that might be “sensitive”. They also indicated they’d uphold commercial regulations on firearms, though they didn’t go into any detail as to what kind of commercial regulations would be acceptable.

The court left most everything on the table for us to challenge at a later date, and took the entire collective rights nonsense off the table. To argue that it’s anything other than a victory is just, to be blunt, fucking crazy.

I would have been happy if Scalia had come out and ruled “machine guns for everyone” but we knew that wasn’t going to happen. This didn’t take much off the table for us, but it took a lot off the table for the other side.

]]> By: Tom http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/06/26/dipshits-from-our-side/#comment-25350 Tom Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:50:28 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3867#comment-25350 what's not accurate in this statement? " the court affirmed a gun right that they intend to strangle into oblivion. The court said you can own a gun but lawmakers can infringe it to death. The George Bush “Conservative” Court has erased the phrase “NO INFRINGEMENT” from the 2nd Amendment. The Court is giving an open invitation to left-wing gun grabbers to wage open political warfare on gun owners." what’s not accurate in this statement?

” the court affirmed a gun right that they intend to strangle into oblivion. The court said you can own a gun but lawmakers can infringe it to death. The George Bush “Conservative” Court has erased the phrase “NO INFRINGEMENT” from the 2nd Amendment. The Court is giving an open invitation to left-wing gun grabbers to wage open political warfare on gun owners.”

]]> By: ClintK http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/06/26/dipshits-from-our-side/#comment-25347 ClintK Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:36:21 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3867#comment-25347 VCDL does not endorse the VGOC in any way. You will not even find them in the thorough list of links on our blog's sidebar. They have actively campaigned against us in the past and have shown no efforts towards reconciliation, despite the enormous gains we have made here in the Commonwealth. Our methods work. Their's do not. Yes, we are friendly towards politicians who are friendly towards us. We have some great allies in Richmond. Our PAC holds their feet to the fire and we collect surveys every election cycle sent out to each and every candidate that document promised positions if elected. Our goal is simple and clear cut. We stamp out gun control in every form in every corner of the State, but we do so through the political infrastructure as it exists. We can't make a touchdown everytime but we accept two yard gains on second down. We are tenacious, but we are patient and realistic. Thanks for your many endorsements. VCDL does not endorse the VGOC in any way. You will not even find them in the thorough list of links on our blog’s sidebar. They have actively campaigned against us in the past and have shown no efforts towards reconciliation, despite the enormous gains we have made here in the Commonwealth.

Our methods work. Their’s do not. Yes, we are friendly towards politicians who are friendly towards us. We have some great allies in Richmond. Our PAC holds their feet to the fire and we collect surveys every election cycle sent out to each and every candidate that document promised positions if elected.

Our goal is simple and clear cut. We stamp out gun control in every form in every corner of the State, but we do so through the political infrastructure as it exists. We can’t make a touchdown everytime but we accept two yard gains on second down. We are tenacious, but we are patient and realistic.

Thanks for your many endorsements.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/06/26/dipshits-from-our-side/#comment-25342 Sebastian Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:35:18 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3867#comment-25342 No, VCDL's statement on the issue was based in reality. No, VCDL’s statement on the issue was based in reality.

]]> By: Mad Saint Jack http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/06/26/dipshits-from-our-side/#comment-25341 Mad Saint Jack Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:21:29 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3867#comment-25341 Not the VCDL, I was scared for a second. Not the VCDL, I was scared for a second.

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