Comments on: Nebraska Gun Ban Defeated http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:20:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20237 Sebastian Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:04:12 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20237 So you're saying you'd pass up the opportunity to get rid of a gun control law today, because it <i>might</i> lead to more gun control tomorrow? There's <i>always</i> a possibility of more gun control tomorrow. The people that push this crap don't give up. So you’re saying you’d pass up the opportunity to get rid of a gun control law today, because it might lead to more gun control tomorrow? There’s always a possibility of more gun control tomorrow. The people that push this crap don’t give up.

]]> By: jimbob86 http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20236 jimbob86 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:01:46 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20236 It was defeated? Not. It was passed with amendments that made it less noxious. So they picked the corn out of a turd, hosed it downwith perfume, and put a piece of tough round steak on the plate next to it. Are you gonna EAT it? I didn't want the round steak in the first damn place.......... It was defeated? Not. It was passed with amendments that made it less noxious. So they picked the corn out of a turd, hosed it downwith perfume, and put a piece of tough round steak on the plate next to it. Are you gonna EAT it? I didn’t want the round steak in the first damn place……….

]]> By: SayUncle » Nebraska Gun Ban http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20234 SayUncle » Nebraska Gun Ban Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:24:25 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20234 [...] It was defeated. [...] [...] It was defeated. [...]

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20220 Sebastian Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:35:47 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20220 There's little doubt that Ashford jumped the gun on trying to ban certain semi-automatic firearms, but he's pretty obviously laying groundwork. You guys seem to have a fairly pro-gun legislature, but obviously, based on what managed to get through, it's not perfect. I have more on how this stuff happens in <a href="http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/13/more-on-nebraska-issue/" rel="nofollow">this post</a> There’s little doubt that Ashford jumped the gun on trying to ban certain semi-automatic firearms, but he’s pretty obviously laying groundwork. You guys seem to have a fairly pro-gun legislature, but obviously, based on what managed to get through, it’s not perfect.

I have more on how this stuff happens in this post

]]> By: Ranger04 http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20219 Ranger04 Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:20:57 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20219 I am not too impressed with the concessions made with this bill, the bill should not have gone forward in any form. The committe is just a precursor to more legislation. If this committee recommends that high cap magazines go away, who is to stop that? The legislature needs to be working on ways to stop the crime in the state, not make law abiding citizens criminals I am not too impressed with the concessions made with this bill, the bill should not have gone forward in any form. The committe is just a precursor to more legislation. If this committee recommends that high cap magazines go away, who is to stop that? The legislature needs to be working on ways to stop the crime in the state, not make law abiding citizens criminals

]]> By: Joe Merchant http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20214 Joe Merchant Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:06:50 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20214 I do the Ashford/Ashcroft thing at least 10 times per post. No worries. Our house is pretty conservative, but there is a staunch anti-gun body. And, never overlook Sen. Ernie Chambers (google is your friend) who hates, hates, hates, hates guns. The result of our pressure on this bill is not the norm. I hope this is the leading edge of a new trend. Remember, it took 10 years to pass CCW. I do the Ashford/Ashcroft thing at least 10 times per post. No worries.

Our house is pretty conservative, but there is a staunch anti-gun body. And, never overlook Sen. Ernie Chambers (google is your friend) who hates, hates, hates, hates guns.

The result of our pressure on this bill is not the norm. I hope this is the leading edge of a new trend. Remember, it took 10 years to pass CCW.

]]> By: jimbob86 http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20213 jimbob86 Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:04:31 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20213 "Unless there’s already an existing movement for gun control in your legislature, " There is such- in the form of the Judiciary Committee..... The thing to keep in mind is that the Nebraska Legislature is a UNICAMERAL . There is only one body, a "senate" apportioned based on population, the only one of its kind- even Maine realized it was a BAD THING. Also, these people are only in session a very short time. Things happen very fast, if at all. Note the sneaky underhanded way CCW got banned from Universities last fall.....this Gun Crime Commission would be a de-facto anti-gun platform that would generate legislation EVERY two years. It would not be subject to term limits as the Antis on the Judiciary Committee ARE. We couldn't even vote them out of office if they pissed us off, as they are POLITICAL APPOINTEES! If we get an anti for a Governor (We've had Democrats as Governor, Ashford is a Republican, hell it COULD happen!) then you would have an assault weapons bill, sure as shootin'. I still say kill it. That commission is the Camel's nose, folks. Once it's in the tent, then the whole Camel will follow. Unless........ no, not even if they gave us pre-emption AND interstate reciprocity. Of what use is that if everyother year the State Bans another list of guns? How is a death by 1,000 cuts make you any less dead? “Unless there’s already an existing movement for gun control in your legislature,
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There is such- in the form of the Judiciary Committee…..

The thing to keep in mind is that the Nebraska Legislature is a UNICAMERAL . There is only one body, a “senate” apportioned based on population, the only one of its kind- even Maine realized it was a BAD THING. Also, these people are only in session a very short time. Things happen very fast, if at all. Note the sneaky underhanded way CCW got banned from Universities last fall…..this Gun Crime Commission would be a de-facto anti-gun platform that would generate legislation EVERY two years. It would not be subject to term limits as the Antis on the Judiciary Committee ARE. We couldn’t even vote them out of office if they pissed us off, as they are POLITICAL APPOINTEES! If we get an anti for a Governor (We’ve had Democrats as Governor, Ashford is a Republican, hell it COULD happen!) then you would have an assault weapons bill, sure as shootin’.

I still say kill it. That commission is the Camel’s nose, folks. Once it’s in the tent, then the whole Camel will follow. Unless…….. no, not even if they gave us pre-emption AND interstate reciprocity. Of what use is that if everyother year the State Bans another list of guns? How is a death by 1,000 cuts make you any less dead?

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20212 Sebastian Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:33:44 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20212 Ooops Ooops

]]> By: Alcibiades McZombie http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20211 Alcibiades McZombie Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:31:35 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20211 When you said Ashcroft, did you mean Ashford? When you said Ashcroft, did you mean Ashford?

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20209 Sebastian Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:26:18 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/13/nebraska-gun-ban-defeated/#comment-20209 The panel is a legitimate concern, but I wouldn't be too worried about it. Unless there's already an existing movement for gun control in your legislature, which the result of this would indicate there isn't much of one, this commission will issue a report which will promptly be ignored. Ashford I think has also had a bit of a humbling moment here. It's a face saving defeat for him. Not a good thing for legislators to have often, as they have to be seen as effective by their constituents if they wish to remain in office. That's probably going to mean other gun control advocates will be a bit gun shy (pardon the pun) about bringing up future gun control measures. They won't want to risk incurring a wrath of gun owners on either themselves or their colleagues. The panel is a legitimate concern, but I wouldn’t be too worried about it. Unless there’s already an existing movement for gun control in your legislature, which the result of this would indicate there isn’t much of one, this commission will issue a report which will promptly be ignored. Ashford I think has also had a bit of a humbling moment here. It’s a face saving defeat for him. Not a good thing for legislators to have often, as they have to be seen as effective by their constituents if they wish to remain in office. That’s probably going to mean other gun control advocates will be a bit gun shy (pardon the pun) about bringing up future gun control measures. They won’t want to risk incurring a wrath of gun owners on either themselves or their colleagues.

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