Comments on: More on Ammunition Encoding http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/02/20/more-on-ammunition-encoding/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:54:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: martialarts training http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/02/20/more-on-ammunition-encoding/#comment-27973 martialarts training Sat, 09 Aug 2008 06:58:01 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2718#comment-27973 How often do you yourself Rollerblade or do you just write about it? Can I ask though - how did you get this picked up and into google news? Very impressive that this blog is syndicated through Google and is it something that is just up to Google or you actively created? Obviously this is a popular blog with great data so well done on your seo success.. Rollerblading greats you should write about next. How often do you yourself Rollerblade or do you just write about it?

Can I ask though – how did you get this picked up and into google news?

Very impressive that this blog is syndicated through Google and is it something that is just up to Google or you actively created?

Obviously this is a popular blog with great data so well done on your seo success..

Rollerblading greats you should write about next.

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]]> By: SayUncle » Ammo Serialization http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/02/20/more-on-ammunition-encoding/#comment-19694 SayUncle » Ammo Serialization Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:20:43 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2718#comment-19694 [...] notes it is done Maryland. It seems the lobbying effort to push for this nonsense is failing at every [...] [...] notes it is done Maryland. It seems the lobbying effort to push for this nonsense is failing at every [...]

]]> By: Alcibiades McZombie http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/02/20/more-on-ammunition-encoding/#comment-19412 Alcibiades McZombie Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:12:24 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2718#comment-19412 Well, the skateboarders in particular seem to cause damage to railings and low walls when they "grind". I can see that as a problem. There appears to be a second company that sells the same things; they may even be more successful than these two. In fact, they apparently both invented them in 1998 at the same time... Well, the skateboarders in particular seem to cause damage to railings and low walls when they “grind”. I can see that as a problem.

There appears to be a second company that sells the same things; they may even be more successful than these two. In fact, they apparently both invented them in 1998 at the same time…

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/02/20/more-on-ammunition-encoding/#comment-19397 Sebastian Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:43:28 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2718#comment-19397 Wow... these guys must wake up in a cold sweat at night worried that people might be out there having fun, and spend their days thinking up ways to cash in on preventing them from having any. Wow… these guys must wake up in a cold sweat at night worried that people might be out there having fun, and spend their days thinking up ways to cash in on preventing them from having any.

]]> By: Alcibiades McZombie http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/02/20/more-on-ammunition-encoding/#comment-19394 Alcibiades McZombie Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:29:40 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2718#comment-19394 If I Googled his name correctly, Steve Mace and Russ Ford also have a company called "Ravensforge" which creates "SkateBlocks" to stop skateboards and rollerblades. They apparently made several million dollars doing this. They are also involved in real estate. http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2002/11/18/smallb1.html If I Googled his name correctly, Steve Mace and Russ Ford also have a company called “Ravensforge” which creates “SkateBlocks” to stop skateboards and rollerblades. They apparently made several million dollars doing this. They are also involved in real estate.

http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2002/11/18/smallb1.html

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/02/20/more-on-ammunition-encoding/#comment-19393 Sebastian Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:23:26 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2718#comment-19393 <i>We have to find out who runs Ammunition Coding Systems, and who gives them money to hire expensive lobbyists, and who pays the expense accounts for those lobbyists to do their work.</i> That's the six million dollar question. Though it seems to me that the firm that was hired is pretty Washington State centric. I can't speak for other states, but in Pennsylvania, if I asked the sponsors of the bill here to introduce a bill that would require gun owners to get the serial number of every gun they own tattooed on their asses, they'd probably help me out. There are probably legislators in a lot of states who will be happy to stick it to gun owners without needing a campaign contribution, just because they don't like us. That's not to say there isn't a gun control force behind this, but I'd also consider the possibility that it's folks who don't care too much about guns one way or another, and are just to use government to force gun owners to pay a tax to them. We have to find out who runs Ammunition Coding Systems, and who gives them money to hire expensive lobbyists, and who pays the expense accounts for those lobbyists to do their work.

That’s the six million dollar question. Though it seems to me that the firm that was hired is pretty Washington State centric. I can’t speak for other states, but in Pennsylvania, if I asked the sponsors of the bill here to introduce a bill that would require gun owners to get the serial number of every gun they own tattooed on their asses, they’d probably help me out. There are probably legislators in a lot of states who will be happy to stick it to gun owners without needing a campaign contribution, just because they don’t like us.

That’s not to say there isn’t a gun control force behind this, but I’d also consider the possibility that it’s folks who don’t care too much about guns one way or another, and are just to use government to force gun owners to pay a tax to them.

]]> By: Rivrdog http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/02/20/more-on-ammunition-encoding/#comment-19392 Rivrdog Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:53:31 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2718#comment-19392 A little basic detective work is required. their website lists a business address in Seattle, in a strip mall, among a few small stores, a Starbucks seeming to be the most significant. Where does a tiny company like this get the resources to lobby and contribute enough dollars to the campaigns of senior legislators to get this claptrap introduced in 9 legislatures? I could afford their office. They list no company officers on their website. Their patent has been applied for quite a while and not awarded, but States are introducing legislation based on this company's ownership of laser engraving technology, WHICH THEY DO NOT OWN! Is this some little guy's pipe dream as an inventor to change things in a big way? I think not, because no "little guy" would have the resources to make this fly in all those States. We have to find out who runs Ammunition Coding Systems, and who gives them money to hire expensive lobbyists, and who pays the expense accounts for those lobbyists to do their work. My guess is than when you get to bottom of this pile of questions, you will find George Soros' dollars involved, maybe through the VPS or the Joyce Foundation. A little basic detective work is required. their website lists a business address in Seattle, in a strip mall, among a few small stores, a Starbucks seeming to be the most significant.

Where does a tiny company like this get the resources to lobby and contribute enough dollars to the campaigns of senior legislators to get this claptrap introduced in 9 legislatures?

I could afford their office. They list no company officers on their website. Their patent has been applied for quite a while and not awarded, but States are introducing legislation based on this company’s ownership of laser engraving technology, WHICH THEY DO NOT OWN!

Is this some little guy’s pipe dream as an inventor to change things in a big way? I think not, because no “little guy” would have the resources to make this fly in all those States.

We have to find out who runs Ammunition Coding Systems, and who gives them money to hire expensive lobbyists, and who pays the expense accounts for those lobbyists to do their work.

My guess is than when you get to bottom of this pile of questions, you will find George Soros’ dollars involved, maybe through the VPS or the Joyce Foundation.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/02/20/more-on-ammunition-encoding/#comment-19381 Sebastian Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:09:56 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2718#comment-19381 A lot, but they won't be able to sell it here unless it's encoded if these laws pass. A lot, but they won’t be able to sell it here unless it’s encoded if these laws pass.

]]> By: Alcibiades McZombie http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/02/20/more-on-ammunition-encoding/#comment-19380 Alcibiades McZombie Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:06:34 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2718#comment-19380 So, that billion number only includes U.S. production? (It would be interesting to know how much ammo Russia and China produce, though.) So, that billion number only includes U.S. production?

(It would be interesting to know how much ammo Russia and China produce, though.)

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