Comments on: Losing in New Jersey http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/01/05/losing-in-new-jersey/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:43:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ian Argent http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/01/05/losing-in-new-jersey/#comment-17561 Ian Argent Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:05:08 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2325#comment-17561 Am not planning on staying, myself. But this is where I am right now. Am not planning on staying, myself. But this is where I am right now.

]]> By: AK http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/01/05/losing-in-new-jersey/#comment-17552 AK Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:43:56 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2325#comment-17552 Born and raised in NJ...left in '77, stationed there again in mid 80's as an AF ROTC instructor at Rutgers and Princeton. LOTS of experience with NJ gun laws. Answer to above is, it depends on the local Chief PD. My father applied for a FOID in 1968, so he could buy me a .22 rifle for my birthday. After 6 months of waiting, I called the Bergenfield PD. Response I got was..."we won't issue a card unless you follow up...we don't think you should have a gun anyway, but we will take no action unless you show an interest..." I am not making that up. Years later, the new Chief, a decent sort, would approve repeat handgun permit apps within 3 days. Key is, a "decent sort..." Your rights depended on the personality of the issuing official. I now live in Colorado. I'd rather have testicular cancer than move back to NJ. Born and raised in NJ…left in ’77, stationed there again in mid 80′s as an AF ROTC instructor at Rutgers and Princeton. LOTS of experience with NJ gun laws. Answer to above is, it depends on the local Chief PD. My father applied for a FOID in 1968, so he could buy me a .22 rifle for my birthday. After 6 months of waiting, I called the Bergenfield PD. Response I got was…”we won’t issue a card unless you follow up…we don’t think you should have a gun anyway, but we will take no action unless you show an interest…” I am not making that up. Years later, the new Chief, a decent sort, would approve repeat handgun permit apps within 3 days. Key is, a “decent sort…” Your rights depended on the personality of the issuing official. I now live in Colorado. I’d rather have testicular cancer than move back to NJ.

]]> By: Ian Argent http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/01/05/losing-in-new-jersey/#comment-17240 Ian Argent Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:02:23 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2325#comment-17240 Confirm the nominal "shall issue within 30 days" for a Firearms Owner ID card & a Permit to Purchase for a Handgun. Cannot confirm actual time for either, saving for a handgun now because of the asinine use-it-or-lose it on the permit to purchase handgun. Confirm the nominal “shall issue within 30 days” for a Firearms Owner ID card & a Permit to Purchase for a Handgun. Cannot confirm actual time for either, saving for a handgun now because of the asinine use-it-or-lose it on the permit to purchase handgun.

]]> By: moose http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/01/05/losing-in-new-jersey/#comment-17130 moose Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:19:02 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2325#comment-17130 Absolutely never let PA become what New Jersey has become (total disregard of the Constitution and the second amendment in particular). Because if Governor Ed and Philadelphia city council had their way PA would certainly go the route of NJ. He should consider running for President of France when he gets out of office. Absolutely never let PA become what New Jersey has become (total disregard of the Constitution and the second amendment in particular). Because if Governor Ed and Philadelphia city council had their way PA would certainly go the route of NJ. He should consider running for President of France when he gets out of office.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/01/05/losing-in-new-jersey/#comment-17128 Sebastian Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:42:26 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2325#comment-17128 It's a pretty sad state of affairs. It's one reason we can never accept licensing. In states that have done it, it becomes such a hassle to buy a gun that no one really bothers, whcih is kind of of the point. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs. It’s one reason we can never accept licensing. In states that have done it, it becomes such a hassle to buy a gun that no one really bothers, whcih is kind of of the point.

]]> By: Kurt "45superman" Hofmann http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/01/05/losing-in-new-jersey/#comment-17127 Kurt "45superman" Hofmann Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:40:13 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2325#comment-17127 Why am I not surprised (actually, I <i>am</i> a bit surprised that NJ, unlike MA, at least <i>ostensibly</i> requires issuance to qualified applicants, whether the "authorities" particularly approve, or not)? Why am I not surprised (actually, I am a bit surprised that NJ, unlike MA, at least ostensibly requires issuance to qualified applicants, whether the “authorities” particularly approve, or not)?

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/01/05/losing-in-new-jersey/#comment-17126 Sebastian Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:21:54 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2325#comment-17126 Unlike Massachusetts, it is shall issue, when they feel like getting around to it, which is typically longer than the period allowed by law which no court will enforce because you shouldn't really have a gun anyway. Unlike Massachusetts, it is shall issue, when they feel like getting around to it, which is typically longer than the period allowed by law which no court will enforce because you shouldn’t really have a gun anyway.

]]> By: Kurt "45superman" Hofmann http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/01/05/losing-in-new-jersey/#comment-17125 Kurt "45superman" Hofmann Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:13:47 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2325#comment-17125 <i> . . . but you do have to get permission from the police before buying a pistol.</i> Being unfamiliar with New Jersey law (you may have noticed)--is that "permission" requirement "shall issue" (does the sheriff/police chief <i>have to</i> issue the permit if all requirements specified by law are met), or do the police have discretion to deny a permit as they see fit? . . . but you do have to get permission from the police before buying a pistol.

Being unfamiliar with New Jersey law (you may have noticed)–is that “permission” requirement “shall issue” (does the sheriff/police chief have to issue the permit if all requirements specified by law are met), or do the police have discretion to deny a permit as they see fit?

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/01/05/losing-in-new-jersey/#comment-17124 Sebastian Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:05:09 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2325#comment-17124 There's not actually a one-gun a month limit in New Jersey, but you do have to get permission from the police before buying a pistol. There’s not actually a one-gun a month limit in New Jersey, but you do have to get permission from the police before buying a pistol.

]]> By: moose http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/01/05/losing-in-new-jersey/#comment-17122 moose Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:17:49 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2325#comment-17122 These morons would be happy living under UN rule forgoing the constitution of the United states. First of all how can one make large straw purchases with the New Jermany one gun a month limit. D-Bags. These morons would be happy living under UN rule forgoing the constitution of the United states. First of all how can one make large straw purchases with the New Jermany one gun a month limit. D-Bags.

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