Comments on: Easton Shooting Debate http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/12/10/easton-shooting-debate/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:53:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sprocket http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/12/10/easton-shooting-debate/#comment-15885 Sprocket Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:55:14 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2092#comment-15885 Gotta love the term, "gun violence". It makes whatever dishonest thing they're pushing technically true. True; if there were no guns there would be no "gun violence", however there would be knife, rock, baseball bat, whatever... violence. I think people like Bryan and Patricia engage in magical thinking, wherein you remove the the symbol of evil(gun), and suddenly the spell the evil device has over the thugs is broken. Get rid of the guns, they think, and soon all the homies wil be volunteering at the shelter and tending puppies at the SPCA. They are driven to the panty wetting hysterics, that are their stock in trade, by a belief that all violence is illegitimate. The thought of violence, even to defend themselves, is so disturbing they attempt to make it disappear. The notion that we live in a violent society, where citizens may need to protect themselves is something they would rather not confront. Gotta love the term, “gun violence”. It makes whatever dishonest thing they’re pushing technically true. True; if there were no guns there would be no “gun violence”, however there would be knife, rock, baseball bat, whatever… violence.
I think people like Bryan and Patricia engage in magical thinking, wherein you remove the the symbol of evil(gun), and suddenly the spell the evil device has over the thugs is broken. Get rid of the guns, they think, and soon all the homies wil be volunteering at the shelter and tending puppies at the SPCA. They are driven to the panty wetting hysterics, that are their stock in trade, by a belief that all violence is illegitimate. The thought of violence, even to defend themselves, is so disturbing they attempt to make it disappear. The notion that we live in a violent society, where citizens may need to protect themselves is something they would rather not confront.

]]> By: Robb Allen http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/12/10/easton-shooting-debate/#comment-15872 Robb Allen Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:31:36 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2092#comment-15872 Maybe he hadn't taken that course yet. From what I gather, it's an intense 6 week course that prepares the common criminal to be not only ninja like in his ability to disarm gun owners, but deftly superior in firearm recognition, shooting skills, and stress inoculation that renders him impervious to being nervous and losing his ability to perform his task. Maybe I should have taken this course rather than boot camp at Parris Island. Maybe he hadn’t taken that course yet. From what I gather, it’s an intense 6 week course that prepares the common criminal to be not only ninja like in his ability to disarm gun owners, but deftly superior in firearm recognition, shooting skills, and stress inoculation that renders him impervious to being nervous and losing his ability to perform his task.

Maybe I should have taken this course rather than boot camp at Parris Island.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/12/10/easton-shooting-debate/#comment-15871 Sebastian Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:26:27 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2092#comment-15871 The real ironic thing, Robb, is that this criminal was in a perfect position to disarm this guy. The way I understand it happened is the criminal had a gun to his back, and was rummaging through his pockets. He missed the gun the guy had concealed. So even in this case, where the conditions were very favorable to the criminal taking possession of the guy's side arm, it didn't happen. The real ironic thing, Robb, is that this criminal was in a perfect position to disarm this guy. The way I understand it happened is the criminal had a gun to his back, and was rummaging through his pockets. He missed the gun the guy had concealed.

So even in this case, where the conditions were very favorable to the criminal taking possession of the guy’s side arm, it didn’t happen.

]]> By: Pro-Gun Progressive » Who Needs Reality? http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/12/10/easton-shooting-debate/#comment-15870 Pro-Gun Progressive » Who Needs Reality? Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:25:05 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2092#comment-15870 [...] When you have your agenda to keep you warm at night? [...] [...] When you have your agenda to keep you warm at night? [...]

]]> By: Robb Allen http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/12/10/easton-shooting-debate/#comment-15868 Robb Allen Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:32:50 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2092#comment-15868 I'm curious. Where do all these criminals get their training on how to disarm people? I mean, apparently they're very good at grabbing the gun and getting it out of your hand without you being able to get off a shot (they wouldn't do it if it were dangerous). Being that this isn't something that comes naturally, I assume there are classes that are taught that only gang members and criminals can attend. Or do you think it's all a bunch of hooey and that most criminals, when faced with a loaded firearm, simply run? I’m curious. Where do all these criminals get their training on how to disarm people?

I mean, apparently they’re very good at grabbing the gun and getting it out of your hand without you being able to get off a shot (they wouldn’t do it if it were dangerous). Being that this isn’t something that comes naturally, I assume there are classes that are taught that only gang members and criminals can attend.

Or do you think it’s all a bunch of hooey and that most criminals, when faced with a loaded firearm, simply run?

]]> By: FFLLiberty http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/12/10/easton-shooting-debate/#comment-15867 FFLLiberty Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:19:14 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2092#comment-15867 "then the bad guys have guns, the good guys have guns and then everybody’s just shooting at each other.” Ah, the old and tired "shootouts in the streets" argument. This whole "bad guys have guns, good guys have guns" thing sounds like something out of the mouth of a 6 year-old. I love when people from gun-grabbing nanny-states tout their own gun laws. Camden, Trenton, and Newark are #5, #14, and #22 in the top 25 most violent cities and it's not all thug-on-thug. “then the bad guys have guns, the good guys have guns and then everybody’s just shooting at each other.”

Ah, the old and tired “shootouts in the streets” argument.
This whole “bad guys have guns, good guys have guns” thing sounds like something out of the mouth of a 6 year-old.

I love when people from gun-grabbing nanny-states tout their own gun laws. Camden, Trenton, and Newark are #5, #14, and #22 in the top 25 most violent cities and it’s not all thug-on-thug.

]]> By: Nate http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/12/10/easton-shooting-debate/#comment-15866 Nate Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:10:06 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2092#comment-15866 It's is true, NJ does issue them, but you have to show an immediate and urgent need and self defense in not urgent enough. And you know, Bryan is right, if we allow law abiding people to carry a firearm to protect themselves there will be more gun violence, but it will be against criminal scumbags as opposed to against law abiding citizens. I think that we should stop calling Bryan and his freedom hating ilk "gun grabbers", "freedom haters" etc... and start calling them what they are, "Criminal Protection Advocates". That is all they want, us disarmed and the criminals armed and protected. That makes he and his the most reprehensible of people. It’s is true, NJ does issue them, but you have to show an immediate and urgent need and self defense in not urgent enough. And you know, Bryan is right, if we allow law abiding people to carry a firearm to protect themselves there will be more gun violence, but it will be against criminal scumbags as opposed to against law abiding citizens. I think that we should stop calling Bryan and his freedom hating ilk “gun grabbers”, “freedom haters” etc… and start calling them what they are, “Criminal Protection Advocates”. That is all they want, us disarmed and the criminals armed and protected. That makes he and his the most reprehensible of people.

]]> By: Alcibiades McZombie http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/12/10/easton-shooting-debate/#comment-15863 Alcibiades McZombie Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:32:55 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2092#comment-15863 New Jersey actually does issue conceal carry permits, if I remember correctly. However, the applicant has to work in a certain field in order to qualify (jewelers/goldsmiths could theoretically qualify, for example). New Jersey actually does issue conceal carry permits, if I remember correctly. However, the applicant has to work in a certain field in order to qualify (jewelers/goldsmiths could theoretically qualify, for example).

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