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	<title>Comments on: CNN Follows in CBS&#8217;s Footsteps</title>
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	<description>The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ...</description>
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		<title>By: Ofc. Krupke</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/11/06/cnn-follows-in-cbss-footsteps/#comment-14594</link>
		<dc:creator>Ofc. Krupke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all nonsense anyway.  The move toward patrol carbines from shotguns in law enforcement has been going on for a while.

It&#039;s biggest pushing event was the North Hollywood bank robbery shootout in 1997, back when that super-serial &quot;Weapon Cosmetics Control Act&quot; was still in force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all nonsense anyway.  The move toward patrol carbines from shotguns in law enforcement has been going on for a while.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s biggest pushing event was the North Hollywood bank robbery shootout in 1997, back when that super-serial &#8220;Weapon Cosmetics Control Act&#8221; was still in force.</p>
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		<title>By: Tinian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/11/06/cnn-follows-in-cbss-footsteps/#comment-14495</link>
		<dc:creator>Tinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From CNN&#039;s AK-47 link:

&lt;i&gt;updated Tue August 14, 2007
Business 2.0: The masters of (virtual) destruction

Holding the AK-47 assault rifle against my shoulder, I aim and fire at the gunman running to attack me. The report of the rifle is deafening, and &lt;b&gt;the recoil feels like getting kicked in the shoulder by a horse&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;

Hyperbole on steroids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From CNN&#8217;s AK-47 link:</p>
<p><i>updated Tue August 14, 2007<br />
Business 2.0: The masters of (virtual) destruction</p>
<p>Holding the AK-47 assault rifle against my shoulder, I aim and fire at the gunman running to attack me. The report of the rifle is deafening, and <b>the recoil feels like getting kicked in the shoulder by a horse</b>.</i></p>
<p>Hyperbole on steroids!</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Love</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/11/06/cnn-follows-in-cbss-footsteps/#comment-14494</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>600 rounds a minute? 

Given that your largest clip holds 75 rounds, I want to meet the hombre that can make a minimum of 8 magazine changes in 60 seconds. I also want to see the puddle of slag that the gun would melt into after that rate of fire.

It is gigglingly funny how profoundly ignorant the media is about this basic technology. Its almost as bad as if they issued serious stories about fueling cars with water and magic powder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>600 rounds a minute? </p>
<p>Given that your largest clip holds 75 rounds, I want to meet the hombre that can make a minimum of 8 magazine changes in 60 seconds. I also want to see the puddle of slag that the gun would melt into after that rate of fire.</p>
<p>It is gigglingly funny how profoundly ignorant the media is about this basic technology. Its almost as bad as if they issued serious stories about fueling cars with water and magic powder.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/11/06/cnn-follows-in-cbss-footsteps/#comment-14490</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The unfortunate thing is that your average citizen, getting 90% of his education and 100% of his news from sources such as these, is going to buy the whole deal, hook, line, and sinker.&lt;/i&gt;

Perhaps, Linoge, but in the end, so what?  

The question we need to ask ourselves is of the sheep who buy into the lies, how many will actually care enough to contact their representatives or show up at state/local hearings to support restrictions on these types of arms?

I don&#039;t care about polls or casual support for them.  These things don&#039;t affect policy.  Constituents speaking out does.  And I&#039;ve found that the vast majority who do tend to be on our side.  Often by a factor of 10 to 100 to 1.  During the MD assault weapon ban hearings last year, not one private MD citizen showed up to support the ban.  Over 200 citizens showed up to support it.  And that number is with me removing those on both sides who were part of special interest groups (BC, NSSF, VPC, NRA, MD Sportsmen&#039;s groups, etc).

The populace may believe the lies but belief is not translating into testimony or support for them where it counts: in the legislatures.  The exact opposite tends to occur.

I&#039;ve started to stop worry about the sheep.  They are happy munching and bleating about such things but aren&#039;t motivated enough to leave the paddock.  As long as they feel safe from the wolves, real or imagined, they&#039;re content to let the sheepdogs run the show.  For the few that actually venture out, they find a ring of sheepdogs resting beyond and few wolves in sight.  It just isn&#039;t worth it to them after a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The unfortunate thing is that your average citizen, getting 90% of his education and 100% of his news from sources such as these, is going to buy the whole deal, hook, line, and sinker.</i></p>
<p>Perhaps, Linoge, but in the end, so what?  </p>
<p>The question we need to ask ourselves is of the sheep who buy into the lies, how many will actually care enough to contact their representatives or show up at state/local hearings to support restrictions on these types of arms?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care about polls or casual support for them.  These things don&#8217;t affect policy.  Constituents speaking out does.  And I&#8217;ve found that the vast majority who do tend to be on our side.  Often by a factor of 10 to 100 to 1.  During the MD assault weapon ban hearings last year, not one private MD citizen showed up to support the ban.  Over 200 citizens showed up to support it.  And that number is with me removing those on both sides who were part of special interest groups (BC, NSSF, VPC, NRA, MD Sportsmen&#8217;s groups, etc).</p>
<p>The populace may believe the lies but belief is not translating into testimony or support for them where it counts: in the legislatures.  The exact opposite tends to occur.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve started to stop worry about the sheep.  They are happy munching and bleating about such things but aren&#8217;t motivated enough to leave the paddock.  As long as they feel safe from the wolves, real or imagined, they&#8217;re content to let the sheepdogs run the show.  For the few that actually venture out, they find a ring of sheepdogs resting beyond and few wolves in sight.  It just isn&#8217;t worth it to them after a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/11/06/cnn-follows-in-cbss-footsteps/#comment-14488</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kills me, is if someone were shooting up a mall on full auto, firing from the hip, he&#039;d be lucky to hit anything.  He&#039;d have about three second of trigger time before running the magazine dry, which would be the point where you&#039;d drop him.

The Brady&#039;s are counting on the fact that people have watched one too many hollywood movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kills me, is if someone were shooting up a mall on full auto, firing from the hip, he&#8217;d be lucky to hit anything.  He&#8217;d have about three second of trigger time before running the magazine dry, which would be the point where you&#8217;d drop him.</p>
<p>The Brady&#8217;s are counting on the fact that people have watched one too many hollywood movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Sigivald</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/11/06/cnn-follows-in-cbss-footsteps/#comment-14487</link>
		<dc:creator>Sigivald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, it&#039;s a pity that you really can&#039;t just go buy a full-auto AK for cheap and some 7.62x39 AP rounds.

Because I&#039;d really enjoy one for plinking with.

(Though it never occurred to me that the Kalashnikov was &lt;I&gt;designed&lt;/i&gt; for hip-based fire. Must be a &quot;hip-stock&quot; rather than shoulder, secretly.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, it&#8217;s a pity that you really can&#8217;t just go buy a full-auto AK for cheap and some 7.62&#215;39 AP rounds.</p>
<p>Because I&#8217;d really enjoy one for plinking with.</p>
<p>(Though it never occurred to me that the Kalashnikov was <i>designed</i> for hip-based fire. Must be a &#8220;hip-stock&#8221; rather than shoulder, secretly.)</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle &#187; CNN gets guns wrong</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/11/06/cnn-follows-in-cbss-footsteps/#comment-14464</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle &#187; CNN gets guns wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sebastian: I mean, why even bother to fact check? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Linoge</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/11/06/cnn-follows-in-cbss-footsteps/#comment-14457</link>
		<dc:creator>Linoge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The unfortunate thing is that your average citizen, getting 90% of his education and 100% of his news from sources such as these, is going to buy the whole deal, hook, line, and sinker.  

William Randolph Hearst would be &lt;em&gt;so&lt;/em&gt; proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unfortunate thing is that your average citizen, getting 90% of his education and 100% of his news from sources such as these, is going to buy the whole deal, hook, line, and sinker.  </p>
<p>William Randolph Hearst would be <em>so</em> proud.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/11/06/cnn-follows-in-cbss-footsteps/#comment-14456</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It is so obvious that Chief Timony is a political sock puppet of the anti-gun Mayor&lt;/i&gt;

He was good at that in Philadelphia too.  Only now that anti-gun mayor is my governor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It is so obvious that Chief Timony is a political sock puppet of the anti-gun Mayor</i></p>
<p>He was good at that in Philadelphia too.  Only now that anti-gun mayor is my governor.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/11/06/cnn-follows-in-cbss-footsteps/#comment-14455</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorit part was the &quot;cutting through steel at 100 yards&#039; bit.  It is so obvious that Chief Timony is a political sock puppet of the anti-gun Mayor. Heck, it is probly old hat by now for this stooge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorit part was the &#8220;cutting through steel at 100 yards&#8217; bit.  It is so obvious that Chief Timony is a political sock puppet of the anti-gun Mayor. Heck, it is probly old hat by now for this stooge.</p>
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