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Windows Vista: “Just Say No!”

Glenn Reynolds got Windows XP for his wife’s computer, instead of Vista.  I agree with this move wholeheartedly.  Professionally, I am a Systems Manager for a small pharmaceutical research company.  I run everything IT for it, including a fairly sizable Linux based compute farm.  I use MacOS, both at home and at work, in the form of a MacBook Pro I carry back and forth.  It works well for me, since most of our infrastructure is Linux based, which inter-operates well with MacOS.  But all the scientists’ desktop PCs, and a few of our servers, are Windows.   At this point, I have no plans to upgrade them to Vista.  Some of our scientific software isn’t even certified to work on it yet.  I know, at some point I will have to upgrade, because Microsoft will force it.  I am starting a few pilot users, non-scientists who don’t require the non-certified software, with Vista.  Their experiences will determine whether I upgrade anyone else.  I have evaluated Vista myself, and wanted to throw the machine it was running on out a window after 10 minutes.  I’m not too happy with Office 2007 either.

So I’m glad to see Glenn joining the ranks of people just saying “no” to Windows Vista.   Now, all we need to do is get him to say no to Windows Vista by getting a Mac :)

10 Responses to “Windows Vista: “Just Say No!””

  1. Danno says:

    While Bill Gates is trying to force Vista down our throats, I’m thinkin’ Linux keeps looking better and better! In the meantime I’ve considered upgrading the spousal unit’s PC but I won’t do it if Vista is a requirement. I just don’t see any benefit, just lots of cost in terms of more memory & faster CPU’s just to feed the OS.

    In the meantime, A friend lent me an old laptop with Fedora 7. If I can get everything I need up and running there, M$ft can KMA and I won’t look back! I need to get access other machines on my LAN, I’ve never owned a share of M$FT but if I did, I’d sell every share! Hmmm… if I believed in the short sale game, I think this is a ripe situation!

    Danno

  2. Greg Morris says:

    Yeah, I got a “free” Vista upgrade CD when I bought my laptop… haven’t done it yet, and I don’t think I will. I’ve heard anything less than 2Gb of memory, and you’d be better off installing Windows 3.1.

    At work, I run XP and Server 2003, because I have to… At home, I have XP on my laptop, Ubuntu on my “server”, and my wife’s computer is an iMac. Everyone plays nice together. I’m always afraid of new M$ operating systems, because they tend to “extend” various protocols, making them inoperable in a multi-OS environment. I also never install any M$ product until at least SP2 comes out.

  3. Jim W says:

    Hah, I’m still on windows 2000 and windows 2000 advanced server at home.

  4. Now, all we need to do is get him to say no to Windows Vista by getting a Mac :)
    I like the way you think. ;-) I’d been using Windows at home since…well, since I got a computer, but Mac is the standard in my line of work. Earlier this year when I bought a new computer, I picked up a regular MacBook got the house and love it. Don’t think I’d go back to Windows, at least not till Microsoft gets the bugs worked out of Vista. Maybe not even then.

  5. …that was suppsed to read, “for the house…”

  6. Shane says:

    Vista is not quite there yet. Too many apps don’t work right. I’d wait until things settle down more before pushing Vista in a work environment. If you install Vista now, you are just paying for the privilege of being a “Beta Tester” for Microsoft. BTW, I’m a systems integration engineer so I have been around the block a few times with many OSs.

    At home, I will never install Vista. I’m done with Microsoft at home. I’d be running Linux right now if I was not still into gaming on my computers. XP is fine for that. I’ve replaced Outlook with Thunderbird, IE with Firefox. Office to OpenOffice is next. It’s only a matter of time until I go open source with my OS.

  7. Ian Argent says:

    I’m having flashbacks to the intro of XP here… How many of you swore never to upgrade from 2000 to XP?

    Microsoft is not responsible for lack of drivers.

    Microsoft is not responsible for lack of applications (except for apps that they produce).

    The only 2 complaints I’ve seen about Vista that Microsoft is responsible for is system requirements and excessive security prompts. The first is semi-legitimate, but trivial; a decent machine runs Vista jsut fine. Yeah, they specs look rather high compare to even a 2-year-old machine, but I’m running Vista on a Dell D600 laptop (admittedly with 2 GB memory) with no difficulty. The second – well, the second is in response to all the bitching and moaning about security (or lack thereof) in XP. It’s so annoying and difficult to click a “are you who you say you are” button (/snark). If they come up inappropriately, why is the APPLICATION requesting those privileges? App vendors have gotten too used to unsecure systems.

    I’ve been using Vista since before launch (RC1 on a machine that was NOT powerful enough to run it – was evaluating pre-release drivers with what I had on hand). I may be building a new machine next year, and will be running Vista on it.

    That having been said, Sebastian, you’re absolutely right to hold off on upgradin gyour office. I’ve done IT work for pharma, and that’s not an environment to be changing as a new fad comes up. And even though I’ll be running Vista on my new machine, I will be keeping my old OS and dual-booting for a couple of games that I suspect will NOT run under Vista (being Win98 16-bit games and I’m planning on going 64-bit)

  8. Guav says:

    I know dozens of people who have left Windows for Mac OS X … yet I do not know one single person who has every left Mac OS X for Windows.

    Anecdotal? Sure. But I still think it says something.

  9. thirdpower says:

    I got forced to go to Vista when I bought the new computers. It took me two days to figure out how to disable all the handy dandy little bundled programs. So far I’m not thrilled.

  10. Nomen Nescio says:

    for desktop computing needs, unless you simply must have either MS Office (and not just “a decent word processor and spreadsheet”) or some other specific application that runs only on Windows, Ubuntu does pretty much all you’re likely to need. that plus EasyUbuntu gets you a perfectly good home and home office desktop.

    Fedora 7 is a good OS for a server computer, not the best for a desktop, although still serviceable. currently i myself run Ubuntu 7.04 at home, Fedora 7 at work, and if it weren’t for having to support coworkers i could avoid Windows entirely.

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