Comments on: What is a Machinegun? http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/06/23/what-is-a-machinegun/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:35:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/06/23/what-is-a-machinegun/#comment-5840 Sebastian Mon, 25 Jun 2007 04:00:23 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=901#comment-5840 You're probably not going to convince politicians to even muck with this law at all, really. They aren't the ones risking the ATF's wrath, after all. I would be fine with no federal definition of machinegun, anywhere, but I was trying to come up with language that would reflect the substance of the law without being so open to creative interpretation. The problem with just the base definition is you could, in theory, have a drop in conversion that could turn a semi-automatic firearm into an automatic firearm in a manner of seconds, and as long as you never actually used it, it would be fine. That would be fine with me, but it would be a major change in the law. All the language in that statute was meant to cover that, but I think it goes overboard, so I was stating how it could be scaled back, but still preserve the inherent intent and impact of the law, but without being quite so open to arbitrary interpreations. You’re probably not going to convince politicians to even muck with this law at all, really. They aren’t the ones risking the ATF’s wrath, after all. I would be fine with no federal definition of machinegun, anywhere, but I was trying to come up with language that would reflect the substance of the law without being so open to creative interpretation.

The problem with just the base definition is you could, in theory, have a drop in conversion that could turn a semi-automatic firearm into an automatic firearm in a manner of seconds, and as long as you never actually used it, it would be fine. That would be fine with me, but it would be a major change in the law.

All the language in that statute was meant to cover that, but I think it goes overboard, so I was stating how it could be scaled back, but still preserve the inherent intent and impact of the law, but without being quite so open to arbitrary interpreations.

]]> By: Mr. Bruce http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/06/23/what-is-a-machinegun/#comment-5819 Mr. Bruce Sun, 24 Jun 2007 18:10:07 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=901#comment-5819 Great, no tags in the comments section. Now I really look like a total doofus--oh, hey guys... What I meant to say was 3. >>The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single actuation of the trigger. Great, no tags in the comments section. Now I really look like a total doofus–oh, hey guys…

What I meant to say was

3. >>The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single actuation of the trigger.

]]> By: Mr. Bruce http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/06/23/what-is-a-machinegun/#comment-5818 Mr. Bruce Sun, 24 Jun 2007 18:03:33 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=901#comment-5818 First-time commenter, so a couple or three things: 1. Everybody else in the whole blogosphere puts their comments at the bottom of the entry, but no, you had to be different! Hmph. 2. "Name (required)...E-mail (required, but not displayed)...URI" URI? And now the actual meat of my comment (vs. the peevish snarking) 3. >>The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single actuation of the trigger.is intended to shoot automatically more than one shot..."? First-time commenter, so a couple or three things:

1. Everybody else in the whole blogosphere puts their comments at the bottom of the entry, but no, you had to be different! Hmph.

2. “Name (required)…E-mail (required, but not displayed)…URI”

URI?

And now the actual meat of my comment (vs. the peevish snarking)

3. >>The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single actuation of the trigger.is intended to shoot automatically more than one shot…”?

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/06/23/what-is-a-machinegun/#comment-5817 Sebastian Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:37:37 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=901#comment-5817 It does... I think that was his point. As much as I'd love to write it that way, I don't think any lawmakers would go for it. It does… I think that was his point. As much as I’d love to write it that way, I don’t think any lawmakers would go for it.

]]> By: Dano http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/06/23/what-is-a-machinegun/#comment-5816 Dano Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:11:28 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=901#comment-5816 Umm... doesn't that include all firearms? Umm… doesn’t that include all firearms?

]]> By: USCitizen http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/06/23/what-is-a-machinegun/#comment-5814 USCitizen Sun, 24 Jun 2007 16:12:52 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=901#comment-5814 Or this definition: The term "machinegun" means one of many weapons suitable for use by the military, therefore being exempt from infringement of Citizen's rights to keep and bear under the Second Amendment to the Constitution. Hey, Law writing is fun! Maybe we should be Senators! Or this definition:

The term “machinegun” means one of many weapons suitable for use by the military, therefore being exempt from infringement of Citizen’s rights to keep and bear under the Second Amendment to the Constitution.

Hey, Law writing is fun! Maybe we should be Senators!

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